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    Automatic Shufflers

    Hello I am new to this forum. This question has probably been asked a million times . Can automatic card shufflers be manipulated and cards arranged by using software ? I am not talking about the continuous shufflers. It seems that there are certain patterns that I see over and over. Double on 11 and get the dreaded Ace. Split Aces and get a 2 or 3 dealer has a 5or6 and rips off a 7 card 21. Then get one 10 value card with a 2-6. I lost 10 straight hands all 12s-16s while busting. Also lost 5 doubles on 11s all in the same shoe different table. Split 8s or 9s 3 times make lets say 19s out of them dealer get 20-21. Ive continued to see this same pattern of cards over and over again It drives me crazy. Practically every other player at the table is just shaking their heads in disbelief. The shoe is a 6 deck shoe can they actually stack the cards via electronic software? I play a very good game and make few if any mistakes most of the time. Am I just imagining this or can manipulation actually take place? I know you go through loosing streaks but practically every time this takes place. I appreciate your input in regards to this question. I'm totally mind boggled by this. Thank You

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    I’d like to distract from another heated topic and say something here, to ease the situation a little. I found that almost all these shufflers are not random. On some days, I will keep winning until they change cards. On other days, I will keep losing at this machine. I think if you are winning at this machine, you should bolster this winning trend by betting a lot more.

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    Automatic Shufflers

    Thanks for the tip I have noticed the same thing on certain days the cards are what I consider normal. On most days I believe that the shufflers are set to beat you up. Like you said when the cards are coming in a normal fashion bet more. I keep telling myself that they cant do that but my gut keeps telling me that they are. On some days every table is the same thing everyone is getting bust hands. I just wish they would go back to the hand shuffle. I used to win on a regular basis at one casino that hand shuffled. Then they installed the automatic shufflers I have not won once in over a year.

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    You understand that what you're saying is nonsense, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I’d like to distract from another heated topic and say something here, to ease the situation a little. I found that almost all these shufflers are not random. On some days, I will keep winning until they change cards. On other days, I will keep losing at this machine. I think if you are winning at this machine, you should bolster this winning trend by betting a lot more.
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    Utter rubbish. Aceside banned again for three months for continuing to push nonsense.
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    Automati Shufflers

    I think that it's a legitimate question that every player has had at one time or another. If you had your choice would you prefer hand shuffle over automatic shuffler? If you say it don't matter I say that your reply is nonsense .

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    How can he be banned and keep posting?

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    They time out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubletrouble View Post
    I think that it's a legitimate question that every player has had at one time or another. If you had your choice would you prefer hand shuffle over automatic shuffler? If you say it don't matter I say that your reply is nonsense .
    It would not be possible to shuffle in the manner in which you described in your OP.
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    Norm. Can an automatic shuffler be programmed like you programmed your bias levels in Casino Verite? Why or why not?

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    I wish. It would be extremely beatable.
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    So without being too technical what makes it impossible to program bias levels with real shufflers?

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