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    How to earn reasonably playing only one hour

    I am basically not a counter so I am only basing this on what I know. If you play only an hour, spread 10x from 10min bets and 2 hands , assuming you play two shoes an hour, and you get 5 hands per shoe with +5, won’t your earning be

    100USD*5bets*2hands*2shoes*2percent advantage=40USD? Not adding in counting loss at min bets, cover, mistakes.

    However if you go there one hour, how do you justify the hassle, gasoline, time used? Perhaps 3 hours for 40USD? How to increase earnings if you go there only an hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    I am basically not a counter so I am only basing this on what I know. If you play only an hour, spread 10x from 10min bets and 2 hands , assuming you play two shoes an hour, and you get 5 hands per shoe with +5, won’t your earning be

    100USD*5bets*2hands*2shoes*2percent advantage=40USD? Not adding in counting loss at min bets, cover, mistakes.

    However if you go there one hour, how do you justify the hassle, gasoline, time used? Perhaps 3 hours for 40USD? How to increase earnings if you go there only an hour?
    You sum it up well. For red chip players, their ev might be less than $20 per hour. Maybe even less than $10 if the spread has to be tight. That is why AP play purple chips or orange chips to justify the hassle.

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    Like I said I am no counter so when AP use purple or orange they get there via minimum Black chips? Can they jump there from red or green?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    Like I said I am no counter so when AP use purple or orange they get there via minimum Black chips? Can they jump there from red or green?
    If you consider risk of ruin, you should not just bet big. You need to use Criterion bet, a mathematics formula to bet. Normally AP starts from $10,000 bankroll and bet $10 to $120 at $10 table, earning about $20 per hour. Starting from there and when the bankroll grows, he or she will bet more. But the common reaction from ploppies is that using $10,000 to make $20 is not worth it.

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    A main theme of this thread is the One Hour. Now say I go once in two days and takes me one month to grow 800? It may not even cover my expenses how to grow?

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    What are you talking about? You can’t even find a seat at a blackjack table during weekend days. With only one hour there, you are more likely to win about 43% of the time. To overcome the 50% win rate, you need at least a few hours.
    Last edited by aceside; 12-17-2023 at 08:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    What are you talking about? You can’t even find a seat at a blackjack table during weekend days. With only one hour there, you are more likely to win about 43% of the time. To overcome the 50% win rate, you need at least a few hours.
    I am referring to advises to play one hour in other thread to avoid back offs currently in the front page. That’s why I do not understand and am seeking answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    I am basically not a counter so I am only basing this on what I know. If you play only an hour, spread 10x from 10min bets and 2 hands , assuming you play two shoes an hour, and you get 5 hands per shoe with +5, won’t your earning be

    100USD*5bets*2hands*2shoes*2percent advantage=40USD? Not adding in counting loss at min bets, cover, mistakes.

    However if you go there one hour, how do you justify the hassle, gasoline, time used? Perhaps 3 hours for 40USD? How to increase earnings if you go there only an hour?

    The scenario you described doesn't make sense. If you're talking about driving to a casino to play red chips, to make money at it, you're going to need to play more. Too many people back themselves off with paranoia that they can't play 2 hour sessions at the red chip level. They don't need to back you off if you destroy your bankroll with expenses and unnecessary caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    I am referring to advises to play one hour in other thread to avoid back offs currently in the front page. That’s why I do not understand and am seeking answers.
    You shouldn't treat an hour of play as a hard-and-fast rule, but you'll often be exposing your max bet at least once within an hour of play. After a hot shoe ends, it makes for a good time to take a break to avoid going from max bet to min bet after shuffle.

    Other times, you might only see neutral or mild counts for hours at a time. In those situations you aren't varying your bet much (and therefore look like any other patron), so imo I think it's okay to stay around longer til you get some good counts.

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    The results of playing one hour doesn't tell you anything. You'll be looking at mostly variance. The concept is you have to get into the long run to have a good chance of showing a profit. Only after playing many of those one-hour sessions and the total number of hands approaches N0 do you have a good chance that your net will exceed the standard deviation of all those hands. That being said, you can improve your expected win rate by playing games with better rules and deeper penetration, playing higher rounds per hour with fewer players at the table, widen your spread, and increase your betting unit (which for a fixed bank will increase your RoR), and make sure you get the higher bets out there when the count calls for it. You could also try back counting.

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    Why would anyone go to a casino for just one hour? It is different if you can go across the street to another casino, but in my neck of the woods traveling to a casino might be a couple of hours trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    I am basically not a counter so I am only basing this on what I know. If you play only an hour, spread 10x from 10min bets and 2 hands , assuming you play two shoes an hour, and you get 5 hands per shoe with +5, won’t your earning be 100USD*5bets*2hands*2shoes*2percent advantage=40USD? Not adding in counting loss at min bets, cover, mistakes. However if you go there one hour, how do you justify the hassle, gasoline, time used? Perhaps 3 hours for 40USD? How to increase earnings if you go there only an hour?
    2 shoes an hour? WHAT? I play 5 shoes an hour and that includes sitting out negative counts (floating negative based on decks remaining) I would not sit at any game that went that slow.

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