Demand for ID

[Iwantmoney]

I am not too experienced backed off but consensus seem to be the casino cannot force you to give ID even if backroomed. But does gaming or the police have the rights to force it? Can you reject? I seen videos even certain people who was dubiously trying to break into supposedly their own cars refused to give ID

[moo321]

It depends on the state:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_a...ntify_statutes

Some states allow "peace officers" to stop you and ask for ID, and you can get sent to jail if you don't comply. Supreme Court precedent would tend to narrow this to situations where the police have "reasonable, articulable suspicion" that you're committing a crime. So, police officers can stop you and demand ID in a lot of places, including Nevada, but you may have a defense and a civil suit if they didn't have a good reason to think you might be a criminal. "Gaming" may or may not be sworn peace officers. In some places they are, and in other places they are not.

If there's no stop and identify law in that state, you can politely refuse to give ID. If the person is not a police officer, you can probably refuse to give ID, but check the law. Nevada has had some programs where casino security have quasi law enforcement powers to detain criminals and the like.

[Norm]

They used to use vagrancy laws. Those were ruled unconstitutional.

[VonDox]

In Minnesota you DO have to provide an ID if you are operating a vehicle. Otherwise, unless they (the police) have been given/seen/reviewed evidence of a crime that you may have committed then you would be required to produce an ID and if not, you could be detained until they determine either you were not involved or did not commit a crime or they decide they do have enough evidence to arrest you for a crime and charge and book you.

[Iwantmoney]

Following it since I seldom get backroomed why were they so desperate for ID? That was the only thing they wanted. They did not for instance ask me what am I doing, am I an AP, search me, take my thumbprints, or even ask me to take off my mask. All they wanted was my ID. And even James Grosjean say in CAA he sometimes play rated. So why were they so desperate for only my ID

[Iwantmoney]

Unfortunately they managed to get my ID I am not divulging how. But should I be worried or no

[BJGenius007]

Following it since I seldom get backroomed why were they so desperate for ID? That was the only thing they wanted. They did not for instance ask me what am I doing, am I an AP, search me, take my thumbprints, or even ask me to take off my mask. All they wanted was my ID. And even James Grosjean say in CAA he sometimes play rated. So why were they so desperate for only my ID

Because by law, casinos have to verify players' age for people who look 35 or younger.

[Iwantmoney]

So it’s safe for them to know your ID if you are overaged?

[moo321]

Ok, let's break this down a little bit more. Sometimes casinos check ID for age verification. If you're 23 years old, you sit down at a blackjack table, and the dealer asks to see your ID, that's probably what they're doing. If a random security guard stops you in the middle of the pit, before you've played, and you haven't been backed off all over town that day, it's probably just age verification.



If you're 50 years old, you're up $25,000 in the high limit room, and the shift manager asks to see your ID, that's a different situation.

[BJGenius007]

Ok, let's break this down a little bit more. Sometimes casinos check ID for age verification. If you're 23 years old, you sit down at a blackjack table, and the dealer asks to see your ID, that's probably what they're doing. If a random security guard stops you in the middle of the pit, before you've played, and you haven't been backed off all over town that day, it's probably just age verification.



If you're 50 years old, you're up $25,000 in the high limit room, and the shift manager asks to see your ID, that's a different situation.

In that case, you can decline to show your ID. Most of the time, their excuse is to make you a player card. You are a whale to them when you can win $25,000 in a session. In this age, casinos have many ways to find your identity. They don't have to ask for your ID to know who you are.

[Iwantmoney]

Your post leave us hanging in mid air. Okay if you are fifty and they ask for ID what could they do with it? Why not just bar you straightaway?

Okay I reveal more. In my case instead of just barring me they hounded me for ID and I am certain they know I am overaged.

Ok, let's break this down a little bit more. Sometimes casinos check ID for age verification. If you're 23 years old, you sit down at a blackjack table, and the dealer asks to see your ID, that's probably what they're doing. If a random security guard stops you in the middle of the pit, before you've played, and you haven't been backed off all over town that day, it's probably just age verification.



If you're 50 years old, you're up $25,000 in the high limit room, and the shift manager asks to see your ID, that's a different situation.

[21forme]

In my case instead of just barring me they hounded me for ID and I am certain they know I am overaged.

Ask them why they want your ID and that will solve the mystery.

This thread is continuing waaay too long for something so simple that's already been answered.

[Iwantmoney]

Ask them why they want your ID and that will solve the mystery.

This thread is continuing waaay too long for something so simple that's already been answered.

Yeah and they will answer truthfully. And no given they know I am not underaged it is not answered