baccarat

[suh3232]

online baccarat at stake website.
they role 2 dice before every round if it lands as total of 8 or 9.
either banker or player is payed 2to1 or 3 to 1 depending on dice total.
no commision on banker. any advantage we can get or any way to estimate edge.

[JohnGalt007]

online baccarat at stake website.
they role 2 dice before every round if it lands as total of 8 or 9.
either banker or player is payed 2to1 or 3 to 1 depending on dice total.
no commision on banker. any advantage we can get or any way to estimate edge.

Probability of rolling 8 with two fair 6-sided dice = 5/36
Probability of rolling 9 with two fair 6-sided dice = 4/36
Probability of rolling anything else with two fair 6-sided dice = 27/36
Win/Loss to Player in case of an 8 roll = 2
Win/Loss to Player in case of a 9 roll = 3
Win/Loss to Player in case of any other roll = -1
Expected Win/Loss to Player = (5/36)(2)+(4/36)(3)+(-1)(27/36) = -5/36

Hence, the player can expect to lose approximately 14 cents per dollar wagered every time he plays this game. There is no way to get an advantage; stay away from this side bet.

[suh3232]

does your calculations changes if i say its a main bet not a side bet. if dice rolls 8 or 9 i get paid 2 or 3 times my main bet.

[theblackjackplayer]

If understand correctly you win on Eight or Nine and lose on anything else. Even if you get 3 to 1 for both Eight and Nine the best you can do is breakeven.
Win: 9 x 3 Lose: 27 x -1 = 0

[JohnGalt007]

does your calculations changes if i say its a main bet not a side bet. if dice rolls 8 or 9 i get paid 2 or 3 times my main bet.

Unfortunately, the calculations remain the same whether we call the bet a "main bet" or a "side bet". If you want an advantage, don't look for it in this game.

[James989]

does your calculations changes if i say its a main bet not a side bet. if dice rolls 8 or 9 i get paid 2 or 3 times my main bet.

If you bet on BANKER :-
When 2 dice total = 8 and you win, pay 2 to 1 ?
When 2 dice total = 9 and you win, pay 3 to 1 ?
When 2 dice total = 1 to 7 and you win, pay 1 to 1 ?

No commission on banker ? When BANKER total is 6 and you when win, pay 0.5 to 1 ?

Where can I find the that online casino ?

[Edwinschmeler]

Unfortunately, the calculations don't change whether we call the bet a "main bet" or a "side bet." If you're looking for an advantage, you won't find it in this game.