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[aceside]

I am not sure. Let Gronbog and Don say something about this.

[Gronbog]

EV-maximizing index numbers (which is what almost everyone means when they refer to this) have nothing to do with bet spread. They are simply the strike point at which the Initial Bet Advantage (IBA) becomes more favourable for one action over another. They do however vary from one counting system to another.

To answer Aceside's other question. Because we are evaluating the value of each index using SCORE, we must therefore use optimal bet spreads and all of the other conditions for SCORE as defined in BJA3.

[DSchles]

To further explain, we examine not only different rules sets and betting spreads but also play-all and back-counting scenarios. It should be clear that the sets of indices (we use the "Sporty 40" for back-counting and the "Nifty 50" for play-all) included in each array do, in fact, vary not only as to which are included but also as to their ultimate SCORE rankings and the magnitude of contribution (both dollar-wise and percentage-wise) of each play.

Bottom line: We think you're going to like this!

Don

[CEO1]

Hi Don, Just ordered it! Looking forward to reading it........although I can't really play anywhere anymore. Taken up poker...not nearly as much fun as BJ Counting.

[DSchles]

Thank you. Enjoy.

Don

[Jack Jackson]

EV-maximizing index numbers (which is what almost everyone means when they refer to this) have nothing to do with bet spread. They are simply the strike point at which the Initial Bet Advantage (IBA) becomes more favourable for one action over another. They do however vary from one counting system to another.

To answer Aceside's other question. Because we are evaluating the value of each index using SCORE, we must therefore use optimal bet spreads and all of the other conditions for SCORE as defined in BJA3.

Is it safe to assume that if one were playing on a limited bankroll then he should almost def. be using RA indexes?

[Gronbog]

Because the vast majority of players use EV-maximizing indices, and because the original I18 and Fab4 are EV-maximizing, that's what we used in the book, except for a couple of key plays which we discuss in some detail.

The usual practical solution for those on a limited bankroll is to use more back-counting and we have that covered as well.

[aceside]

I guess you cannot rank these indices based on their individual EV contributions without fixing a bet spread. I thought the original Illustrious-18 were ranked based on frequency of being used.

[DSchles]

I guess you cannot rank these indices based on their individual EV contributions without fixing a bet spread.

Correct.

I thought the original Illustrious-18 were ranked based on frequency of being used.

No, certainly not. The frequency is, of course, an important component in determining the value of any play, but surely not the only one.

Don

[Gronbog]

For anyone who has bought the book, we have a minor omission in the first printing. At the bottom of table 51.1 (page 314) there should be a legend stating:

Indices are surrender except
d = double
p = split

[Jack Jackson]

Because the vast majority of players use EV-maximizing indices, and because the original I18 and Fab4 are EV-maximizing, that's what we used in the book, except for a couple of key plays which we discuss in some detail.

The usual practical solution for those on a limited bankroll is to use more back-counting and we have that covered as well.

Of course RA indexes only deal with doubles and splits, correct? Am i wrong to play more cautiously and only double and split at a slightly higher index when max bets are on the line? Wouldnt this significantly lower your RoR?

As for the infamous 88vX i really like to stand on this hand at a slightly lower index if i had a maxbet on the line, but full EV on all other bets....

[Gronbog]

Yes, ra indices are effective for plays for which you are increasing variance at the expense of only a little gain in EV. Some doubles and splits definitely fall into this category. Adjusting your strike point away from the EV-maximizing crossover point gives the gain in EV a chance to catch up with the increased variance.

[Ole]

I've got my copy in my hands right now, and it's GRRRRRREAT!
300 pages of tables for the ultimate Hi-Lo play indices and their advantage contribution to SCORE.
And there's even a line graph of that infamous 8,8vT you mention.

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