Basically you are saying that for shoe games, any system is helpless. You just need to spread your bet to gain an edge.Originally Posted by Gramazeka
Basically you are saying that for shoe games, any system is helpless. You just need to spread your bet to gain an edge.
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That was just an example of the process and at first it wasn't meant for insurance discussion. (see post 22)
Even in negative counts, sometimes the Ten ratio is 33.3% or higher and insurance should be taken.
If your count doesn't allow you to realize that the Ten ratio is at 33.3% or larger you're not playing perfect insurance.
Any experienced player will agree with that.
Last edited by Secretariat; 07-14-2022 at 03:18 PM.
I like your posts. Most of them are well written including a lot of math details. Not like mine, most are one-liners. Let me switch back to the subject here. I myself do ASC, but mostly for guiding how many hands to play. When the remaining deck indicates a deficit of aces, I play two-hand blackjack; when the remaining deck indicates an excess of aces, I play one-hand blackjack. Do you think this approach makes any sense?
Last edited by aceside; 07-14-2022 at 03:29 PM.
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I'll never refuse a bit of luck but feel free to tell us when you then insurance and when you don't.
It's a mathematical fact that the threshold for insurance is a Ten ratio of 33.3% or higher regardless of the main count.
If you use a TC of 2.7 or 3.0 or whatever, it is an approximation to perfect insurance. It's not perfect insurance.
yes....one thing I know perfectly well is that when the count is negative at all....I am playing for 'peanuts', literally....so your example with insuring a negative count is meaningless to my game, period
peanuts x 2-1 odds equals = ...guess what????....it still equals peanuts
Sharky, you have to realize thats this works both ways.
You may have a multiple bet a TC3 and yet the Ten Ratio could be below 33.3%
Then taking insurance would be wrong.
Hey it's your money, you do what you want but you are not playing perfect insurance.
That's all. No big deal. It's your choice.
Oh it's widely known that one can play a winning game without playing perfect insurance.
Your EV will be better with improved insurance.
Don't forget that insurance is the most beneficial strategy variation topping the I18
If that can be of any help to you, Cacarulo had some nice posts lately to improve insurance
with little "effort". It's still not perfect insurance but it's an improvement.
I suggest you look at those posts.
Gramazeka was also supposed to come back on the subject.
Stay tuned on that.
And please, tell me where I supposedly lied.
I will demonstrate to you that I didn't.
By the way the 16-14-44-64 count that you referred to is much closer to the 4-deck depth than the 2-deck depth like you said.
You just did not figure out how many low cards were left in the shoe. It's actually very easy to figure out.
Check again post 22.
Last edited by Secretariat; 07-14-2022 at 07:19 PM.
Let me tell you the whole story. Firstly, I use ASC only when TC>=+1.
When the remaining deck indicates a deficit of aces, I play two-hand because player will benefit a lot from dealer's higher bust rate; when the remaining deck indicates an excess of aces, I play one-hand because player will benefit a lot from more player's blackjacks. However, the important part is how much to bet.
When playing two-hand, I bet $100 each hand; when playing one-hand, I bet $150 that hand in hope of getting a blackjack.
Does this make any sense?
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