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    I've started a new thread.

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    Found it. Thanks again!

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    I do not want to open a separate topic, for this I will ask my questions here for Kakarulo. I'm interested in comparing several systems at different spreads. Let it be 6 decks, pen 4/ 6 , spread 1-20 and 1-50.

    1. AO 2 vs Hi Opt 2.
    2. EBJ 2 vs BRH 0.

    My academic interest is this - at what spread would AO 2 outperform Hi Opt 2 due to its more powerful BC? And due to what BRH 0 outperforms EBJ 2?

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...r-6deck.12920/

    See post by BRH

    He put BRH 0 higher than RPC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    I do not want to open a separate topic, for this I will ask my questions here for Kakarulo. I'm interested in comparing several systems at different spreads. Let it be 6 decks, pen 4/ 6 , spread 1-20 and 1-50.

    1. AO 2 vs Hi Opt 2.
    2. EBJ 2 vs BRH 0.

    My academic interest is this - at what spread would AO 2 outperform Hi Opt 2 due to its more powerful BC? And due to what BRH 0 outperforms EBJ 2?

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...r-6deck.12920/

    See post by BRH

    He put BRH 0 higher than RPC.
    Sorry, what were the tags for EBJ 2 and BRH 0. I know Brett but I don't remember his count systems.
    For question 1, I'm assuming you mean AO2 vs HO2 without an ace count, right?
    No promise, will see what I can do.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

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    AO 2 vs Hi Opt 2 with side count Aces. Normal full systems.

    EBJ 2 = -2 2 2 2 2 2 1 0 -1 -2
    BRH 0= -2 2 2 2 2 2 1 0 0 -2

    https://www.blackjackreview.com/wp/a...s/brh-systems/
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    Here once there was a comparison of AO 2 vs HO 2 , where it was shown that these systems are equal. Too bad the files are gone. But I'm now interested in comparing these systems in high spread shoe games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Here once there was a comparison of AO 2 vs HO 2 , where it was shown that these systems are equal. Too bad the files are gone. But I'm now interested in comparing these systems in high spread shoe games.

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...mega-ii.20339/
    I'm pretty sure that HO2 comes ahead but stay tune.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    I'm pretty sure that HO2 comes ahead but stay tune.

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    Yes for sure, Hi Opt2 with ASC is really superior
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    See BJA3, p. 171-172. Hi-Opt II ASC beats AO2 under every given scenario, of which there are many.

    Don

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    I remember this simulation,this systems are 1-2 deck equal.

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...mega-ii.20339/ ( See comments, it is important)

    I think with smaller spreads Hi Opt is better, but with a spread of 1-30, 1-50 AO 2 will take the lead.
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    CVCX shows a slight superiority for AO2 at the very high spreads you mention.

    Don

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    I find it pretty impressive that comparisons of performance of counting systems still generate interests in 2022
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    Quote Originally Posted by iCountNTrack View Post
    I find it pretty impressive that comparisons of performance of counting systems still generate interests in 2022
    This is gymnastics for the mind ))
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    Quote Originally Posted by iCountNTrack View Post
    I find it pretty impressive that comparisons of performance of counting systems still generate interests in 2022

    Interesting as an academic exercise and I always enjoy posts that ask and try to solve credible math questions that may not have been examined previously or assessing a new approach. There are any number of questions and tradeoffs to examine. From a practical standpoint you make the money as we all understand by - finding best pen, fastest games, spreading high when called for and being willing to grind hours.

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