6:5 bj

[G Man]

Hi,

Might have missed it a year ago, but I believe every BJ board should have this article posted for the masses to read...

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/com...rKYM_U.twitter

[iCountNTrack]

6:5 BJ payoff is not Blackjack, it's a scam. It's everyone's duty to raise awareness of this atrocity

[aceside]

This was discussed here in this forum a year ago. Nothing new. There are plenty of $25 min. 3:2 blackjack tables in MA.

[Norm]

Of course I agree with ICount.

[G Man]

This was discussed here in this forum a year ago. Nothing new. There are plenty of $25 min. 3:2 blackjack tables in MA.

Oh, sorry for disturbing this forum....

[aceside]

No no no. I was poking fun at you, but this was really discussed here last year. We can discuss again.

[ShipTheCookies]

6:5 BJ payoff is not Blackjack, it's a scam. It's everyone's duty to raise awareness of this atrocity

Only you card counters believe this.

[Norm]

I guess ace sequencers and shuffle trackers don't care.

[Secretariat]

I guess ace sequencers and shuffle trackers don't care.

Does that include the ones who claim to be 100% certain to get an ace and claim to get away with a jump spread 1-50?

[21forme]

6:5 BJ payoff is not Blackjack, it's a scam. It's everyone's duty to raise awareness of this atrocity

Pointless. Gamblers are stupid. If nobody was willing to play it, it wouldn't exist.

[iCountNTrack]

Only you card counters believe this.

I am sorry I find your comment to be a bit too simplistic when considering the serious implications of 6:5 BJ payout. So let's look at this a bit closer:

For a basic strategy player:

You are basically playing at an additional -1.3% disadvantage when compare to a full BJ payoff. If you are a weekend warrior who puts in ~800 hours a year, betting an average $20 per hand, @70 hands/hour you will lose on average 15K MORE than your buddy playing full BJ payout

Card Counter

This has been published many times over. But basically unless you are playing a deeply dealt pitched game AND have a large bet spread 6:5 payoff is really not beatable.

Zone Tracker

The simple rule of thumb is that Zone tracking using the Non-Random Shuffle (NRS) formula is that you get a gain +30 in SCORE per tracked rich slug (this is a well known figure, Norm published this many years ago in Modern Blackjack). For a 6:5 BJ payoff this gain will be even less because a true count unit will be less valuable to the player because of the reduced BJ payoff. But bottom line, game no where enough profitable to overcome the large negative disadvantage

Ace Sequencing

Ace steering could potentially one of the few games that's technically beatable but there are a lot of factors that come into play.

• Ace is worth 10% less with 6:5 BJ payoff
• Bet spread you can get away with
• Accuracy of steering
• Buffer hands are being played at significantly larger disadvantage (-1.73% vs -0.40%)
• Rarity of opportunities: 6:5 BJ payoff is usually offered at lower table limits usually use CSM or ASM, for pitch games the shuffles are usually also more random...

Other techniques

Possible but again depends on the frequency of the opportunities and the error rate

6:5 BJ payoff is really really bad and should be avoided like a plague
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[blueman]

He is referring to the single deck version and only at certain times. Of course 3 to 2 is better but doesn't always exist for some plays