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    “Hot” and “Cold” Tables

    Yes - I know that each hand is an independent event, and there is no such thing as a “hot” or “cold” table, but the truth is that I get frustrated and annoyed at a “cold” table and I lose the count, so I just say, “f*** it” and leave the table. At a “hot” table counting is easy, I am happy, so I stay until the count goes too negative.

    Do you have the same experience, or do I just need to quash my emotions??

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    It's hard even for the most experienced counter to totally ignore those good or bad snapshots, but the key is to not let those emotions cloud your judgement and stray from your playing and betting strategy.
    Chance favors the prepared mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ed View Post
    I get frustrated and annoyed at a “cold” table and I lose the count, so I just say, “f*** it” and leave the table
    This is what iCount is referring to.

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    Mr. Ed, my guess is you are playing on hand-shuffled (vs. machine shuffled) tables. Overall, you will get less of a roller-coaster ride with machine shuffled tables, where hands are truly independent of one another.

    In the same vein, I believe unaware players fare worse on hand shuffled tables vs. on machine shuffled tables, but if they had more acumen, they have the potential to do much better on hand shuffled tables. Ask Mr. Arnold Snyder if he agrees with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
    Overall, you will get less of a roller-coaster ride with machine shuffled tables, where hands are truly independent of one another
    On what are you basing this claim? What exactly makes the machine shuffle produce "truly independent" hands and what makes the hand shuffle produce bigger swings?

    Clearly more information is available to the observant player, but I don't see why the swings should be worse for the straight counter with hand shuffles vs machine shuffles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
    Mr. Ed, my guess is you are playing on hand-shuffled (vs. machine shuffled) tables. Overall, you will get less of a roller-coaster ride with machine shuffled tables, where hands are truly independent of one another.

    In the same vein, I believe unaware players fare worse on hand shuffled tables vs. on machine shuffled tables, but if they had more acumen, they have the potential to do much better on hand shuffled tables. Ask Mr. Arnold Snyder if he agrees with me.
    Sorry this is entirely voodoo, you can't possibly make such claims based on empirical evidence
    Chance favors the prepared mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCountNTrack View Post
    you can't possibly make such claims based on empirical evidence
    Well, yes, you CAN; it's just that the claims are wrong!

    Don

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