Is Blackjack the only Game that you are penalized for being good at?

[Norm]

It's not about one pass, simple shuffles. I just used one as an example as it is easier to understand.

[Lester]

I'm getting Norm's shuffle track software today. For all the hours of study shuffle tracking requires, I might as well have the best equipment.

[Lester]

The world's best shuffle tracker? Oh man, I never thought of it in those terms: sounds awesome. Well, I don't mind the scouting so long as it's out there somewhere.

[21forme]

my best knowledge

Now there's an oxymoron!

[bejammin075]

Show us how you did these. Nobody in the world can beat video poker! No math to justify this.

One of the two hosts of the Gambling With An Edge podcast is Bob Dancer (pseudonym), a specialist in beating video poker. He has books, software, and teaches a class in LV. Generally, you look for video poker games with the smallest house edge. You have to play as a known person with a players card. Generally you learn a strategy that is close to perfect, up to the point where additional strategy info gives not much return for the added complications & slowing the game down. Playing the games on days with extra points/perks/comps/promotions/drawings, etc, and/or high progressive jackpots brings the EV into positive territory. Generally though, the edges at video poker get thinner and thinner as time marches on. I don't play video poker, I just absorbed this info listening to the show.

[UncleChoo]

Do hand shuffles exist anywhere? Maybe Vegas...

There is a place by me (upper midwest) that hand shuffles and will tolerate a decent spread. Since it's a public forum I can't tell you anything exact because I don't want a bunch of vultures descending out of nowhere and ruining a good thing. I just wanted to confirm that hand shuffles are around and not just Vegas.

[Old new guy]

There is a place by me (upper midwest) that hand shuffles and will tolerate a decent spread. Since it's a public forum I can't tell you anything exact because I don't want a bunch of vultures descending out of nowhere and ruining a good thing. I just wanted to confirm that hand shuffles are around and not just Vegas.

You may not want to give more details, but is it a good thing? A hand shuffle may do nothing more than slow the game down.

[stopgambling]

You may not want to give more details, but is it a good thing? A hand shuffle may do nothing more than slow the game down.

This statement shows you still got a lot to learn .
Btw bj and Ap in some other forms is shit in these couple of years .

[G Man]

You may not want to give more details, but is it a good thing? A hand shuffle may do nothing more than slow the game down.

LOL, you're dying to know where it is OR you have no clue about advantage play.

[aceside]

You may not want to give more details, but is it a good thing? A hand shuffle may do nothing more than slow the game down.

Speaking of shuffle tracking, I recently won consistently from one of their dealers but lost to another dealer of the same shuffle. We need a machinery dealer to have a real edge though. It’s not all that easy.

[Norm]

Whatever it is you are trying to say -- it's wrong.

[Old new guy]

LOL, you're dying to know where it is OR you have no clue about advantage play.

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. LOL, calm down. It doesn’t HAVE to be one of these. The point of my somewhat rhetorical question was that if a shuffle is NOT trackable, then is it a good thing? But, I suppose I shouldn’t have asked the question, since it could only be answered by giving more details. I’ll own that. To the prior poster, yes, I have a lot to learn. I will humbly let you know once I’ve learned it all.

[aceside]

Whatever it is you are trying to say -- it's wrong.

What I tried to say is this. Even for the same kind of hand shuffle in the same casino, different dealers may have different ways of plugging the unplayed cards (behind the cut card) into the played deck. This random part makes it harder to do shuffle tracking. When the dealer is machinery, I had a lot of success, but when sloppy, I often had bad luck.