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    We look at old archives and posts Cacarullo - EV indeces vs RA indeces. He considered it unimportant. ))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    No competition regarding me as I don't use words like absolute.
    But you must use terms like "optimal" right? The Russians are ahead in this regard. ))
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    That appears in conflict to what you just said about your indices.

    One thing that I've learned about blackjack over the last decades, everything affects everything. Try to isolate anything in an experiment and you lose the big picture.
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    I believe that was Karel in his documentation. Just did a search of my 700 page book and got no match for optimal indices. I tend to avoid superlatives. I never even say you will win in my books. ABSOLUTE is a superlative, even without cap emphasis. Optimal, in common scientific usage, is considered according to current methodologies. Doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. There is always a better mousetrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    I believe that was Karel in his documentation. Just did a search of my 700 page book and got no match for optimal indices. I tend to avoid superlatives. I never even say you will win in my books. ABSOLUTE is a superlative, even without cap emphasis. Optimal, in common scientific usage, is considered according to current methodologies. Doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. There is always a better mousetrap.
    "Any indeces in my soft i take 1 sek. Max TC 23 ( This is much more convenient than Verite )."- this is what I called "optimal".
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    Believe what you may. You have provided no rationale, no measurement methodology, no evidence. But, you are welcome to author a paper.
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    I do not need it. I am ready to bet symbolic money on our dispute. My EV max indeces vs Verite indeces. 6/4 pen. ENHC.
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    Well, I do. Do what you wish. In my 40-odd years posting online, I have never taken a bet and never will. The outcome of bets rarely prove anything outside of noisy bars. Come up with a better mousetrap with actual proof, and I'd be happy to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, I do. Do what you wish. In my 40-odd years posting online, I have never taken a bet and never will. The outcome of bets rarely prove anything outside of noisy bars. Come up with a better mousetrap with actual proof, and I'd be happy to see it.

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    OK. Here's another mousetrap for you)) -

    Let's say I'm on tour. ST, one level shuffle. Very high local count. What is the surrender index 18vs 10 ? TC 22.6

    Verite will calculate it?
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    I have no idea what you are talking about. And a TC of 22.6 is an absurdity. The accuracy of TCs at that height is nowhere near a decimal without playing a trillion hands, and even it it were, the overall effect in the long run would be less than a tiny fraction of a penny a year. And you want an answer in a shuffle without any of the many variables that exist and provide a meaningless image. And vaccines don't have chips in them. I have real work to do. Have fun and goodnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about. And a TC of 22.6 is an absurdity. The accuracy of TCs at that height is nowhere near a decimal without playing a trillion hands, and even it it were, the overall effect in the long run would be less than a tiny fraction of a penny a year. And you want an answer in a shuffle without any of the many variables that exist and provide a meaningless image. And vaccines don't have chips in them. I have real work to do. Have fun and goodnight.
    Knowing a local count in 8-10 cards is absurdity ? Its ST. Its normal game for me.
    As far as I remember, Verite does not calculate such high indeces.
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    This catfight is disruptive.
    Thread closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    This catfight is disruptive.
    Thread closed.
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