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    Quick Question about Ace side count!

    Currently I am playing mostly 6 deck using Hi-Lo. I am trying to switch to 2-decks

    I think Ace side count for 2 deck is possible . But practically it is still kind of hard.

    A book said to side count Aces using toes. However it is very hard to use toes.

    Any one of you have any suggestions?

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    Use letters - A thru H.

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    Switch to hi-opt +ace side count to play double decks. You don’t need any toes to count aces.

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    FBM ASC
    a digital masterpiece

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    Among those replies i think your way is the best

    In my mind, I will have running count like

    1 2 3 ....

    until first ace out

    then 1A , -1A , -2A, 2A,....

    then second Ace out

    3B, 1B, 0B , -2B .....

    then third Ace out

    2C 4C -1C...

    then ...

    It works well!

    Smartest idea!


    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Use letters - A thru H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJcountingmaster View Post
    Among those replies i think your way is the best

    In my mind, I will have running count like

    1 2 3 ....

    until first ace out

    then 1A , -1A , -2A, 2A,....

    then second Ace out

    3B, 1B, 0B , -2B .....

    then third Ace out

    2C 4C -1C...

    then ...

    It works well!

    Smartest idea!

    Each mind works differently and that's fine. As I said, letters can help and double deck is a piece of cake. If you end up playing 6-deck will you be able to handle -7 S, -2 U? Perhaps, but I guarantee you that you will have to make a significant adjustment. At least you made a small progress today and that's good.

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    6 deck

    You are looking for trouble trying to keep a side count of Aces with 6 deck. The easy solution is switching to the halves count, not another word needs to be said and you will have .99 betting efficiency and the heck with maximum playing efficiency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    You are looking for trouble trying to keep a side count of Aces with 6 deck.
    Why would that mean trouble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    Totally agree. The guy 21forme hasn’t used any side count. No way he knows this.
    I prefer a digital side count for aces reserving letters for intermediates - see FBM ASC Advanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I prefer a digital side count for aces reserving letters for intermediates - see FBM ASC Advanced.
    OP got his quick fix and that's OK. Freightman University is Ivy League level as far as I am concerned.

    My take is to go digital as far as your mind can take you, then expand your mind with other options, letters being one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secretariat View Post
    OP got his quick fix and that's OK. Freightman University is Ivy League level as far as I am concerned.

    My take is to go digital as far as your mind can take you, then expand your mind with other options, letters being one of them.
    Seeing beyond the box requires one to expand their paradigms. It’s difficult for the many, a challenge for the few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ass-side View Post
    I would never listen to 21forme… For double decks, you are supposed to use hi-opt and ASC is not even important.
    Quote Originally Posted by ass-side View Post
    Totally agree. The guy 21forme hasn’t used any side count. No way he knows this.
    Ass-side is trolling again. And as always, he is wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLI1pRL11Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I would never listen to 21forme… For double decks, you are supposed to use hi-opt and ASC is not even important.
    Far be it from me to interfere - The Prime Directive

    https://youtu.be/3kMiL1LBDvo

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