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  1. 10-20-2021, 01:09 PM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    The first one is on 10/31 and the second on 10/24. I had so many free bets I had to go into the next week to bet them all.
    I assume you’re joking about using one week to determine the validity of 21’s statement. Also, can your free bets only be used on NFL full game ML, spread, O/U? If not, you know there are literally hundreds of other things to bet on, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old new guy View Post
    I assume you’re joking about using one week to determine the validity of 21’s statement. Also, can your free bets only be used on NFL full game ML, spread, O/U? If not, you know there are literally hundreds of other things to bet on, right?
    If I don't win at least one parlay bet, 21forme is full of shit. You yourself didn't recommend parlay bets and I thought I read somewhere (possibly Vegas Casino Talk) that parlay bets are stupid bets.

    I do believe these free bets can be used on anything, but football is the only sport I follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    If I don't win at least one parlay bet, 21forme is full of shit
    That's like saying, "If I don't win at least one of the my big bets during this high count, then counting is nonsense".
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    You yourself didn't recommend parlay bets and I thought I read somewhere (possibly Vegas Casino Talk) that parlay bets are stupid bets.
    The best bets for free play are always high variance bets you would never make with cash. Recall Grosjean's "Beyond Coupons" where he showed that a single number in roulette is the best bet in the casino for a free play coupon. The same principle applies here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronbog View Post
    The best bets for free play are always high variance bets you would never make with cash. Recall Grosjean's "Beyond Coupons" where he showed that a single number in roulette is the best bet in the casino for a free play coupon. The same principle applies here.
    We had this discussion earlier, but let me say this again. Although you know this guy Grosjean, you do not really understand coupons and free bets. I have not encountered any casino in USA that allows you to use these coupons on a single number in Roulette. I always bet on red or black squares even money bets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I have not encountered any casino in USA that allows you to use these coupons on a single number in Roulette.
    I know of one. And I will not reveal it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    I know of one. And I will not reveal it here.
    My understanding is that you can bet on single number bets, but they will not pay you a higher odd than 1:1. If you use it in blackjack, they will not pay you 1.5:1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    My understanding is that you can bet on single number bets, but they will not pay you a higher odd than 1:1. If you use it in blackjack, they will not pay you 1.5:1.
    Your "understanding" of this particular casino is WRONG AS USUAL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    We had this discussion earlier, but let me say this again. Although you know this guy Grosjean, you do not really understand coupons and free bets. I have not encountered any casino in USA that allows you to use these coupons on a single number in Roulette. I always bet on red or black squares even money bets.
    I was merely pointing out a mathematical similarity. There is a very good reason why most casinos do not let you make that bet! What do you think it might be? Perhaps that will help you with your understanding of coupons and free bets.

    FWIW, I have successfully made that bet on many occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronbog View Post
    I was merely pointing out a mathematical similarity. There is a very good reason why most casinos do not let you make that bet! What do you think it might be? Perhaps that will help you with your understanding of coupons and free bets.

    FWIW, I have successfully made that bet on many occasions.
    Of course, you have helped me understanding some of these mechanisms. That is why I ask you.
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