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    Don said
    Basically, what you're suggesting is how to weave straw into gold, and you aren't going to get any takers here.
    Not possible - but straw into brick - it’s been done
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    Some people have to learn lessons the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Don said


    Not possible - but straw into brick - it’s been done
    https://youtu.be/pnloZiMv4-Q
    And in pharaonic times they also used animal dung. Not quite the same as nuclear transmutation (alchemy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSpaulding View Post
    Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet $50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.

    Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

    Comment below and privately we can share contact info.
    Hi I'm very desperate and I'll try anything. I have a $150,000 bankroll so I can even chip in for more than one player's amount. Email me at [email protected]. Thanks.

    Dalmatian

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    How is this thread not yellow?

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    This is all starting to sound like a modern day version of the Ma Barker Gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike235 View Post
    How is this thread not yellow?
    It's the very definition of voodoo. Norm must be busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Ok. I'm on your side. You could do this. A bloke calling himself Norman Leigh did something similar with the game of Roulette circa 1970 and in the South of France as I recall. His approach involved a biased wheel system-whereby the betting structure would automatically expose and thereby exploit any biased wheels. His purportedly successful Mushroom Gang was eventually shut down by the casino gambling authorities. He details his exploits in a book he titled, Thirteen Against the Bank. I'm sure you can locate a copy in an online used bookstore. However, be careful and judicious of who you choose for your recruits! Leigh was not and it proved to be his downfall. And while on the subject of gambling systems, have you ever heard of Parrando's Paradox?

    I can't be sure that Norman Leigh never exploited biased wheels with his "mushroom gang" but you are mistaken about the book "Thirteen Against the Bank" which I have read more than once

    I read the book back when I didn't know what I was doing - starting out gambling

    there is no hint of any legitimate advantage play in that book

    he has a team of players (according to the book which I would surmise is fiction although it's possible there was a team and they actually won due to luck) all of whom are doing a reverse labouchere

    at the beginning of the book he explains that his father was made broke by his martingale system and that a casino Manager laughed in his face when it happened

    so then, the author brilliantly deduces that he can extract revenge on casinos for what happened to his father if you do the opposite of a martingale - so he tweaked a reverse martingale into a reverse labouchere and claims falsely it is a long run winning system

    a google search of "mushroom gang" and roulette came up empty



    the link states that Norman Leigh won great amounts with his team and his reverse labouchere due to luck and was stupidly banned by casinos in the mid 1960s

    I have no confidence that this tale, as related by the link is true - but it is possible







    Norman Leigh: Banned Roulette Legend Who Won $1.3 Million at Casinos – BestUSCasinos.org




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Ok. I'm on your side. You could do this. A bloke calling himself Norman Leigh did something similar with the game of Roulette circa 1970 and in the South of France as I recall. His approach involved a biased wheel system-whereby the betting structure would automatically expose and thereby exploit any biased wheels. His purportedly successful Mushroom Gang was eventually shut down by the casino gambling authorities. He details his exploits in a book he titled, Thirteen Against the Bank. I'm sure you can locate a copy in an online used bookstore. However, be careful and judicious of who you choose for your recruits! Leigh was not and it proved to be his downfall. And while on the subject of gambling systems, have you ever heard of Parrando's Paradox?
    Sorry, but you have just about all of this wrong.

    He didn't set out to find biased wheels, but to apply the reverse-Labouchere progression across all six of the evens payoff bets on the felt - with each member of his team betting on one of them. Nothing advantage about it. All of his team members had to fund their own trip and expenses, and bankroll themselves, and he took a slice of any profits. The bit in his book about him and his partners in crime being expelled from France after they'd won a bundle is all fiction. In actual fact, he and his wife returned home to the UK broke.

    Norman Leigh died impoverished in January 1993 and received a paupers funeral. I have all of this on first hand authority as, six years ago, I had lunch with the former Mrs Leigh and her husband. You can read her responses to some questions here: http://www.uk-21.org/thirteen_against_the_bank.shtml .
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    The OP's scheme is not something I would personally choose to undertake. But it would be interesting to see how far he got with such an ambitious plan.
    Mr. Leigh hatched his system based upon the outcomes of thousands of spins conducted on a cheap toy roulette wheel. By inference those results had to be biased because they came from biased equipment. Admittedly, that small sampling would hardly provide enough data to be statistically significant. In essence virtually any cancellation betting system would have succeeded not only the Reverse Labby-provided biased wheels were involved. Furthermore, the author's account might well be complete fiction. I never advanced any claim to the contrary. But it does make for a compelling drama if it were true.

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