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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    I played full time blackjack for more than 10 years, essentially part time for many years prior to that. I've taken a few years off, and there's no way I wish to keep that sort of full time schedule ever again, but I look forward to once again being able to get out there and play at my leisure with the pandemic subsiding.
    I've never played full time professionally - I guess you might say a lot of part time professional level, and for quite a few years (started playing around 2007, 2008. There’s no way I could handle a full time gig as a card counter, but like you, look forward to some part time play.

    I did play for around 5-6 weeks around Sept Oct before things closed up again. Things are opening up again, just had my 2nd shot and am considering some play again in the next couple of weeks. Mostly but not 100% retired and am considering a number of driving possibilities. Still don’t want to fly yet.

    Full time play at this stage and I might lose my love of the game.

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    Trying combing pro level blackjack and other AP endeavors.

    I know that some here play blackjack and craps for cruise ship comps. Not significant heat, but, you can easily get comped free or significantly discounted cruises. Makes our better halves happy, albeit casino widows during the evening hours of the sailings.

    Just some insight into how CC can be used as a means to an end, and not merely considered as an end in and of itself, which most CC'ers are hyperfixated upon. So, less pit crew heat and who can say that they grind on the high seas. Beats the road anyday!
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    Playing full time would be too much of a grind for me. Playing for cruises and other comps plus a small supplement to retirement works for me. I havn't seen much opportunity on cruise ship casinos except for a certain VP opportunity that is worth a couple hundred bucks per cruise.

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    ask around

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    Smallcap is referring to playing under alias' in which case they will try to charge you with identify fraud. This could im theory happen even if you use a player card you picked up in the casino. Just never do it. Play in ur real name or be a refusal.

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    But good luck playing in ur real name if you are burned out bad or as a refusal its simply a major grind. Not impossible just. a major grind

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    Smallcapboi hows that 10% edge you found in sports? You willing to share it with a petar?

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    The more you play. The more you become known. No matter what edge you are using. Burnout becomes a problem.
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    huh this is a pretty interesting thread, I'm just a college student and yeah there are lots of other things I do like coding apps, etc. but idk personally for me it's just I get tired of being behind a screen all the time and sometimes it's nice to take a break and do something else and blackjack is pretty fun. Plus the idea of beating the house is cool and also a lot of those counting drills w/ things like CV are great, especially when you're waiting for code to compile, etc. so you have a minute and you don't know what to do -- just do a counting drill!

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    So I am not now, nor ever have been, a full time counter.

    I think I could be a full time AP, however. My part time shenanigans has put three kids through college, and one almost through medical school. (He got his white coat in May, so we’re close.) Some years I made more on AP than my job, and I have a very good job.

    The truth is that I love my full time gig. I feel like I add value. When I’m doing AP, I don’t feel that way. I do enjoy card counting, because I like to win. Other AP exploits get me the $$$, but not necessarily the satisfaction of card counting. And nothing AP gives me the satisfaction of my job.

    Plus the job has the benefits, the car, the retirement, etc. So it’s nice to have AP as the side gig.

    Casinos just don’t hit the same as the job. The ploppies, the other APs vying for the same opportunities, the pseudo AP/degenerates who lack the discipline to be effective, they all annoy me. I’m not saying I’m all sunshine and roses, but people tend to behave at work. Not so much at a casino.

    I think for the right person, it could be done.

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    You can't count cards in 2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dogg View Post
    You can't count cards in 2021
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    It's always been impossible to count cards. No one even does it part-time.

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