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**BoSox** · 01-28-2021, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by DSchles

The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

Don

Don, I remember back when Bob told that story, among others as well. Curious what would have happened if Bob timed his entering of a game just as the dealer was placing the cards in the shoe, after the cut card placement already took place.

**21forme** · 01-28-2021, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by BoSox

Don, I remember back when Bob told that story, among others as well. Curious what would have happened if Bob timed his entering of a game just as the dealer was placing the cards in the shoe, after the cut card placement already took place.

I saw Bob in action in Caesars AC many years ago. Let's just say he had a unique look and was very easy to spot. Even if he sat down right after cut card placement, they'd shuffle on him in short order.

**BoSox** · 01-28-2021, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by 21forme

I saw Bob in action in Caesars AC many years ago. Let's just say he had a unique look and was very easy to spot. Even if he sat down right after cut card placement, they'd shuffle on him in short orsder.

21forme, who was the guy that pulled out something like an 11 cent slot voucher out of the bottom of a latrine and dried it out and cashed it? The same guy on another trip was having a bad day at gaming, and then went up stairs and in his room peed all night in an ice bucket.

**DSchles** · 01-28-2021, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by BoSox

Don, I remember back when Bob told that story, among others as well. Curious what would have happened if Bob timed his entering of a game just as the dealer was placing the cards in the shoe, after the cut card placement already took place.

They would take it out and reshuffle or replace the card.

Don

**BoSox** · 01-28-2021, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by DSchles

They would take it out and reshuffle or replace the card.

Don

About what I expected for that no barring city. Ken Uston, would have been better off if he lost his case.

**DSchles** · 01-28-2021, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by BoSox

About what I expected for that no barring city. Ken Uston, would have been better off if he lost his case.

No, ALL of us would have been better off!

Don

**2Bornot2B** · 01-28-2021, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by DSchles

The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

Don

Well...how about this?...way back when the Taj Mahal was run by Trump I was a notorious shuffle tracker...the AC casino pit bosses used to call me Mr. Shuffle Tracker...I was with a gal on holiday and we tried playing the Taj...I put out a minimum bet of $5 on the first hand of the shoe, played it and then the dealer broke the shoe...needless to say I complained and was told that the casino would deal me only one hand...we wasted the casino's time/money by playing 2 hours at that table, one hand every shoe...to the amusement of the crowd of ploppies watching... but it was a lovely sunny day on the Boardwalk...so we gave up...

**JBourne** · 01-26-2021, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Norm

Well, not any reason. They can't trespass you for being Asian. In NJ, they need a good reason.

I was just told "at this point we are going to exercise our right to refuse service". They declined to further explain it, but I'm certain it's not because I'm Asian.

And I'm not in NJ, so no good reason required.

**aceside** · 01-26-2021, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by JBourne

but I'm certain it's not because I'm Asian.

I am wondering why "Asian" has been used a lot in this situation. Why not you just say "blacks"

**21forme** · 01-26-2021, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by aceside

I am wondering why "Asian" has been used a lot in this situation. Why not you just say "blacks"

If you truly have been an AP for 5 years as you claim, you wouldn't be asking that question. But you're just a troll. or an idiot, or both.

**aceside** · 01-26-2021, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by 21forme

If you truly have been an AP for 5 years as you claim, you wouldn't be asking that question. But you're just a troll. or an idiot, or both.

I have been an AP for less than three years. I just want to make fun of you.

**DSchles** · 01-26-2021, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by aceside

I have been an AP for less than three years. I just want to make fun of you.

Piece of advice that it is 100% certain you will ignore. You have discovered this forum, and because you are home all day along with the rest of the country, you are bored and have lots of time on your hands. You are able to post 20 times a day just because, well, you can. But no one here is going to take you seriously because, by your own admission, you're just looking "to make friends." You aren't looking to learn. And, well, for most, this isn't a social club.

There's an old adage that goes something like this: No one ever learns by talking. The only way you can learn is by listening. Another version of the same idea: God gave you one mouth and two ears so that you can listen twice as much as you talk.

Anyway, you see what's happening. Serious posters here have all made you for the troll that you are. And, that usually ends badly for the troll. Word to the wise. But, we already know what you think of the "authorities."

Don

**aceside** · 01-26-2021, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by DSchles

Anyway, you see what's happening. Serious posters here have all made you for the troll that you are. And, that usually ends badly for the troll. Word to the wise. But, we already know what you think of the "authorities."

I noticed I received some dislike on my posts and has become careful posting here. I understand what you are saying and would like to read more and to listen to everybody more. Just like Arnold said, I am a blackjack soldier, counting down a whole deck. You are very inspiring!