Road trip

[aceside]

If you want to maximize your chance of success it would be wise to learn risk of ruin. At certain bet spreads even with a perfect game you can have an 85% chance of losing your bankroll.

Day 6: I did a lot of scouting and little playing. A lot of games in Vegas on a Saturday are complete garbage and not worth the effort. Weak Pen, poor rules, slow dealers, crowded tables, just stay away from the strip. Result +224 in 2 hours.

I just am not motivated to learn ROR because I am confident in my skills. Another reason is that I feel people who know too much about RoR are too reserved and thus are not willing to take risks. I am actually experienced in Los Vegas. You need to stay in LV during weekdays because hotels are cheaper and table limits are lower. When I was there, I slept during daytime and woke up to play from 4 am to 9 am. That was the best chance I could make money.

[21forme]

I just am not motivated to learn ROR because I am confident in my skills.

You keep saying the dumbest things. Not knowing your ROR demonstrates your LACK of skill and understanding of the game.

[aceside]

You keep saying the dumbest things. Not knowing your ROR demonstrates your LACK of skill and understanding of the game.

I have tried several times to learn ROR in blackjack. Last night I found out that for blackjack ROR is just a very simple table to connect your bank roll to your maximum bet amount. I want to learn everything about it, something that a middle school student can understand. Which book do you recommend? I read some blackjack books three years ago but I forgot about their discussion about ROR. Eventually I did all of the calculations myself.

[21forme]

Which book do you recommend?

It's been many years since I've read the beginner books. I recall Knockout Blackjack being an excellent place to start. Besides espousing its count system, it discusses bankroll management, ROR, etc. Also, Snyder's books are great starting points. Again, I don't recall which one is best. Maybe someone else can chime in. ROR is not a difficult concept. You just needs Norm's software to spit the numbers out for you.

[ZeeBabar]

It's been many years since I've read the beginner books. I recall Knockout Blackjack being an excellent place to start. Besides espousing its count system, it discusses bankroll management, ROR, etc. Also, Snyder's books are great starting points. Again, I don't recall which one is best. Maybe someone else can chime in. ROR is not a difficult concept. You just needs Norm's software to spit the numbers out for you.

Stanford Wong’s books, early ones, are good. When I started, Revere’s book, can’t remember book title or his full name, had the best color charts and were easy to remember though I later found there were minor errors.

[BoSox]

I just am not motivated to learn ROR because I am confident in my skills.

Seriously?

Another reason is that I feel people who know too much about RoR are too reserved and thus are not willing to take risks. I am actually experienced in Los Vegas.

You seem like a man who already has all the answers, stop fooling yourself. How about you getting a touch of reality for a change and buy Don Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack 3rd Edition and start off reading chapter 8 Risk of Ruin first because you need it now. Since you are already experienced in your mind use Don's book as a reference tool as everything in the vast amount of material is accurate and you can count on it, whenever needed.

[Craven]

Day 7: I was playing on a table by myself and two guys joined. I now know what other members have said by being able to spot another card counter as soon as they see them. Lol, one guy did not blend in at all wearing some thrift store attire to an upscale casino. Turns out he didn't know how to count, he only followed his friend's lead while making a few basic strategy errors. Anyways this casino is very tolerant and we're playing together for an hour talking about all sorts of things. Then, the dealer brings up the high limit room. I say something like $100 per hand minimum will either be a blessing or a curse and I don't want to find out. This dumbass (the one who doesn't know how to count) turns to me and says "Yeah you would need a $100,000 bankroll to sit at those tables." What a moron. I finished the shoe and left. Returned later and heard they were asked to leave 5 minutes after I left. Since I was sitting at the table earlier I went through a short lived shit test by the detection dealer before being cleared. How oblivious can you be? Boys, for the love of God watch what you say.

Result 4 hours of play +555. Reduced spread to 1 hand 1-8 for longevity.

[aceside]

Reduced spread to 1 hand 1-8 for longevity.

For Upscale casinos, their table limits are $25 min, so you were probably doing 25-200 a hand. That is good enough to beat the game when head up playing. It looks like you are well prepared. Good luck.

[Scrum]

Lol, one guy did not blend in at all wearing some thrift store attire to an upscale casino.

Always wonder about this. These days people dress like their going to bed while they’re out in public all the time. Unless you’re sitting in a HL room of the nicest strip casinos, it’s hard to imagine looking like a bum raises any flags.

[Craven]

Always wonder about this. These days people dress like their going to bed while they’re out in public all the time. Unless you’re sitting in a HL room of the nicest strip casinos, it’s hard to imagine looking like a bum raises any flags.

Looking like a bum and buying in for $700 in crisp $100 bills looks odd to me. Idk if that's a norm for Vegas

[21forme]

I've played plenty of HL rooms and always dress down. It's a security thing, especially in a place like AC.

Remember the old days of flying? People used to get dressed up for that, before the airlines started treating their customers like cattle.

[Craven]

I've played plenty of HL rooms and always dress down. It's a security thing, especially in a place like AC.

Remember the old days of flying? People used to get dressed up for that, before the airlines started treating their customers like cattle.

It's nice to get a different perspective.

[Cohiba]

I've played plenty of HL rooms and always dress down. It's a security thing, especially in a place like AC.

Remember the old days of flying? People used to get dressed up for that, before the airlines started treating their customers like cattle.

I also dress down while playing - its a comfort thing. Pre COVID was dressed up in a suit/tie for my day job so when I played compensated for it by always dressing casual. That said while playing have several pairs of special pants designed to securely and comfortably hold all the tools of APing. When i first started was much younger and thought buying some expensive items would be a good investment for the "high roller" look. Never really pulled the trigger on that approach and havent had too many problems. The only accessory needed to come off as a degen is a roll, during the dot bomb era recall seeing a young guy - coulndt have been more than about 25 spreading 3x10K on the main floor at MGM wearing a t-shirt, bathing suit, and flip flops. Certainly shaped my view on what is needed to fit into the casinos viewpoint of looking the part.

Cohiba