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Originally Posted by BJC
Did Gronberg do the sims in CVdata? How did he add in the extra 5m9c? I'm guessing he had to add a compositional index for the adjustments?
Gronbog never did any sims on HL w 5m9c. Gronbog did sims on HL w 7m9c
No sims were ever done on HL w 5m9c.
Another reader earlier in this post said he was going to do sims
I already told you the results.
HL w 5m9c will be HL w ASC and tie Wong's Halves.
The HL w 5m9c improved over HL will probably close the SCORE gap between HL and HO2 w ASC by 50%.
Besides improving power, the HL w 5m9c gives some limited cover play where you are actually making the correct play but the casino, using the HL to track you, will consider that you made a mistake.
There are not that many cover plays with HL w 5m9c but I will mention a few.
Your BE is improved so near the end of the shoe, if 5m9c is negative, you may have a small bet out when HL says should should have a big bet or if 5m9c is positive you may have a big bet out where HL says you should be betting small.
And then there is standing on hard 16 v 7 when 5m9c >= 2.5*dr or if HL >= 4*dr then 5m9c >= 2*dr.
But there is no where near the number of deviations from HL when KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c is used - you would be making correct plays where someone using the HL will think you made a mistake, so that is also valuable cover.
My friend just got kicked out of the great game I play with Super 4 and LL, at least for a while. Maybe he can go back net month.
He uses the HL and has refused for over a year to even switch to the KO never mind including any of my side counts with the KO,
This has been the experience I had with every counter I ever met. They all use the HL and steadfastly refuse to switch to any other count system.
The HL is not a good primary count to start with to add side counts to get maximum SCORE, the KO is the best primary count to use to add side counts to.
But since the vast majority of players are HL then I conceded to them and just wanted to add a very simple side count to the HL to help improve the HL. That is why I suggested adding 5m9c to the HL.
The casino thinks I am an idiot and do not bother me because of all of my strange plays according to the HL, which are actually correct.
And the Super 4 and LL make extra cover.
Consider LL bet for example.
With the HL you bet LL when tc(HL) >= 6.5. The only time you max out on the HL bet is when your maximum blackjack bet is out. You never even bet the LL when tc(HL) < 6.5. You don't think that stands out like a red flag.
So now the casinos not only have your bet spread to track you but they also see you only play the LL when tc(HL) is large and your max bet is out and otherwise you do not play LL. If you have a sharp pit boss, your goose is cooked.
The Ten count should be used for LL.
HL has a Ten count (and insurance) efficiency of 76%.
Using Tc = perfect Ten count = KO + AA89mTc the Ten count (and insurance) efficiency is 100%.
So using the Tc there are times that I may be playing the LL with a very low tc(HL) and there are times I may not be playing LL with a very high tc(HL). The casino has no idea what is going on if they were trying to track my play and would just consider me an ordinary loser.
So the casinos use the HL to see if you are a counter.
The HL is powerful and simple and gets you the money but the problem it is too simple. So simple that anyone can use it including the casino.
And don't think for a minute that the casino is not aware of the Illustrious 18. They look mainly at bet spread but may pick a few deviations of the I18 to verify their suspicions.
I remembering seeing a YouTube video with Don Johnson who won millions from the casinos.
When he was asked about counters, he said a monkey can count cards. He was referring to the HL.
So you have a double edge sword with the HL.
It is powerful and nice and easy for you to use but it is also nice and easy for the casinos to use.
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