I would like to get details on FBM system so I can run Correlation Coefficients on it

[ZeeBabar]

One more point. If you look closely at the four page PDF in the previous post for the no LS game I used you will see page 1 saying

KO+5m7c+AA89mTc+b sim 8 verses Tarzan Expert+KC=0.10 which is he very best Tarzan count.

If you look at page 3 of that PDF, the LS sim, which I only had results for KO+ for and did not have Tarzan LS to compare tp, you will see

KO+5m7c+AA89mTc+b sim 9

In sim 9, I added a bunch of negative indices. So for the LS game I included a bunch of negative indices but did not include many negative indices in sim 8 which was the no LS game which was compared against Tarzan.

So that is why Tarzan won the play all game. When I exclude negative indices, the sims just used basic strategy for those plays in very negative counts. So there were stands and doubles and splits in very negative counts because of lack of these negative indices.

So this explains why Tarzan beat KO+ for play all. If I had included these negative indices, KO+ would have most likely beaten Tarzan for the play all game also.

That is if KO+5m7c+AA89mTc+b sim 9 were used for the LS game sim the results would have more likely been KO+ beating Tarzan even for the play all game.

And if I used KO w AA89mTc and 45m79c the difference would have been even greater. That KO++ system with 45m79c would have beaten the very best Tarzan count, Tarzan Expert+KC=0.10 by an even wider margin.

Congratulations!

[ShipTheCookies]

You guys go through too much trouble and work for such little returns.

[Jack Jackson]

22232100-3
Ins. and 12
(4+1/9-1)

2233210-1-3
(13-16) *Betting

*A-3/+3
Betting

*Ace and 9 can be included for ins.

[beating vegas]

You guys go through too much trouble and work for such little returns.

Ship The Cookies is trying to inspire you guys to look for more profitable ways to gain a better advantage at the table.

Look at the pros and you will notice they tend to use power full counts that are easy to use. High Low etc.

High Low is a great count. Easy to use and effective.

These pros tend to use more powerful skills to games that are out there.

That’s if you guys are players. If your math guys then it’s all good.

I have a lot of respect for the math guys. It’s because of them we can get advantages.

But I’m just a player.

Just my opinion but I’m a nobody.

[ShipTheCookies]

Ship The Cookies is trying to inspire you guys to look for more profitable ways to gain a better advantage at the table.

Look at the pros and you will notice they tend to use power full counts that are easy to use. High Low etc.

High Low is a great count. Easy to use and effective.

These pros tend to use more powerful skills to games that are out there.

That’s if you guys are players. If your math guys then it’s all good.

I have a lot of respect for the math guys. It’s because of them we can get advantages.

But I’m just a player.

Just my opinion but I’m a nobody.

Not quite trying to inspire anyone. I'd rather LESS people be doing the things we do.

But bjanalyst seems like he keeps trying to reinvent the wheel. By the time he's done, whatever extra money made from that count at the tables would've been made long ago with an already established count.

[bjanalyst]

Not quite trying to inspire anyone. I'd rather LESS people be doing the things we do.

But bjanalyst seems like he keeps trying to reinvent the wheel. By the time he's done, whatever extra money made from that count at the tables would've been made long ago with an already established count.

The HL is a great and easy and powerful count to use and does get the money.

The problem is the casinos know this also and its PE and BE leave a lot of room for improvement.

In evaluating a count system I concentrate on (1) power, (2) accuracy and (3) ease of use. Sims and CC measure only power. Tarzan and HO2 w ASC fail in both ease of use and accuracy. The ASC is an estimate and dependent on decks played and hard to use. HO2 is level two and balances so it pivot is a true count of zero and accuracy of true counts of 3, 4, 5 and 6 where large bets are made depends greatly on estimating correctly decks played and the accuracy of diving. A Table of Critical Running counts is used with the KO so there is no need to do any calculation of true counts. KO is level one and many of the indices are this same as HL indices. KO is level 2 and requires learning an entire new set of indices.

Using KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c gets more money, quicker and will less risk and using chips for the side counts I can play it accurately four hours on end.

As I mentioned, the indices for most of the plays are the same as the HL indices and KO is a level one system with a pivot of a true count of four so truce counts of 4 are exact and trues counts of 3, 5 and 6 are insensitive to a very great degree to errors in estimating decks played. Accuracy at true counts for betting and playing strategy variations is very important at true counts of 3, 4, 5 and 6 where large bets are made.

Also the game I play is six decks, five decks deal, S17, DAS, LS, Super 4 and Lucky Ladies, The AA89mTc and 5m9c besides helping with regular blackjack also helps with these side bets.

These side bets played properly greatly increase the hourly expectation of the player and also reduce risk. The HL is terrible for Super 4 and is mediocre for Lucky Ladies. And if casino sees you betting LL only when HL is true count of 6.5 or more and your large bets are out, they may catch on to what you are doing.

For example, for super 4 the HL has an efficiency of only 61%. Using S4c = Super 4 count = KO = (AA89mTc + 5m9c) give a S4 CC of 85%.

For Lucky Ladies a ten count gives the best results. The HL has a Ten count efficiency of only 76%. The Tc = Ten count = KO + AA89mTc has a Ten count efficiency of 100%. For insurance simply take insurance when Tc >= crc(4) =4*n where n - number of decks with 100% insurance efficiency. The Ten count is also used for Lucky Ladies betting with a 100% Ten count efficiency as compared to HL ten count efficiency of 76% as mentioned earlier.

The problem with the HL is that tis is so easy even the casinos can use it and know about it and they use the HL to see if you are counting. With KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c there are plays you make that the HL player would never make. For example, you would stand on hard 16 v 7 if KO >= crc(4) and 5m9c >= 2*dr where dr = decks remaining. You should hit 12 v 6 even with a KO = crc(4) (corresponds to HL true count of four) whenever AA89mTc <= (-3)*dr. The casino sees you hitting a hard 12 v 6 while is a basic strategy stand and hitting it with a HL true count of 4. So you have many cover plays as well.

The Tc = KO + AA89mTc is perfect for insurance and helps greatly with standing on hard 12 v 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. In addition AA89mTc has the same Standard Deviation as HL and is balanced so the HL running count can vary from -30 to +30 in five out of six decks deal so that AA89mTc can vary by this same degree also. Also AA89mTc and KO have a CC of around 20% so they are vary loosely correlated with each other and AA89mTc can have values almost independent of KO. This means that if AA89mTc is positive enough you may be making strange plays like taking insurance at KO = crc(0) (correspond to HL = 0) or if AA89mTc is negative enough not taking insurance at KO = crc(6) (corresponds to HL true count of zero) which is additional cover play. And if AA89mTc is large enough you may be making Lucky Ladies bet when KO = crc(0) which would make no sense to the casino. And as I showed in a separate post if AA89mTc is negative enough you would be hitting hard 11 v 9 or T even with KO = crc(4) (HL true count of 4) and a player has a large bet out.

So KO with AA89mTc and 5m9c wins on all there criteria.

1. Very powerful
2. Very accurate at true counts of 3, 4, 5, 6 and the side counts are plus/minus side counts and are exact
3. Ease of use. KO is level one and the side counts are kept with chips so minimal exhaustion and very easy to use and just glancing at your chip stack you know the value of the side counts.

HO2 w ASC and Tarzan fail criteria 2 and 3 and HO2 fails power in respect to KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c and Tarzan seems to tie KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c for power. Also these other counts cannot be used for side bets like KO with AA89mtC and 5m9c can by using various linear combinations of the three counts to get a derived count that is optimal for these side bets.

[ummagumma]

The HL is a great and easy and powerful count to use and does get the money.

The problem is the casinos know this also and its PE and BE leave a lot of room for improvement.

This all may be true and your math analysis could be spot on but I think you're missing part of the point. Half the game, if not more, is getting away with it and your longevity with a good game. With a simple count like HL it's much easier to act like a normal loser, chatting and taking your eyes off the cards. Try that with a level 2/3+ count and I think you'll struggle. What you gain on the swings I bet you'll lose on the roundabouts; and the roundabouts are much more fun and will make you more money in the end

[bjanalyst]

This all may be true and your math analysis could be spot on but I think you're missing part of the point. Half the game, if not more, is getting away with it and your longevity with a good game. With a simple count like HL it's much easier to act like a normal loser, chatting and taking your eyes off the cards. Try that with a level 2/3+ count and I think you'll struggle. What you gain on the swings I bet you'll lose on the roundabouts; and the roundabouts are much more fun and will make you more money in the end

That is why I use chips for my side counts. I use the KO as my level one primary count which is the only count I keep in my head. I use chips for my side counts.

I can play for hours without any fatigue and the chips make the chance of errors in my side counts very small.

I am keeping KO instead of HL. Just as easy and actually easier as I use Table of Critical Running Count to mentally "look up" true counts. I do not need to calculate true counts.

And my true counts at 3, 4, 5, and 6 are more accurate than HL true counts since KO pivot is true count of 4 when HL pivot is true count of zero.

Also you were talking about longevity and cover.

Please re-read my post.

I gave you some examples of plays that are correct that you would never make with the HL count and which the pit, if they were tracking you they would be using the HL, would think you were a very poor counter and no threat.

For example, there are situations that could arise using KO w AA89mTc and 5m9c where

1. you would take insurance at HL = 0
2. you do not take insurance tc HL true count of 6.
3. you hit hard 12 v 6 at HL true count of 4.
4, you stand on hard 16 v 7

and other plays as well.

And these plays using the KO w Aa89mTc and 5m9c would be correct in certain situations that the HL and pit would never catch.

Also the game I play is six decks, five decks dealt, S17, DAS, LS, Super 4 and Lucky Ladies.

These side bets the pit thinks are sucker bets especially the Super 4.

Some pit people know LL can be beaten but even if they did they would be using the HL for that where you bet LL when HL true count is 6.5 or more.

But using Tc = Ten count = KO + AA89mTc, you would sometimes be betting LL when HL = 0 for example.

And using S4c = Super 4 count = KO - (AA89mTc + 5m9c) you would be betting Super 4 which is also good cover as the pit thinks Super 4 is a sucker bet.

So KO w AA8u9mTc and 5m9c offers additional cover plays as well, especially when side bets are offered.

[ummagumma]

bjanalyst, to each his own. I'm too long in the tooth to change now. I like a very simple count like HL and good money management that I can do in my sleep whilst carrying on chatting and appearing like a normal punter. I'm also not too interested in squeezing every edge to the 4th decimal place out of the game. Life's too short. But hey, whatever rocks your boat. And if you can get away with what you do any you're happy about it then that's great.

[bjarg]

very long post

I wonder if anybody is actually reading your posts.

[seriousplayer]

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[cc12b]

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