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    CVCX Online Viewer

    This is a great tool that is available as a demo. Thanks for making this available Norm.
    It is extremely helpful to a relative newby like me in comparing the quality of various games.

    I have a few questions. I've compared a # of scenarios for wonging in at +2.
    Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but some things don't make sense to me.

    1) When I change # of hands, the c-SCORE does not change.
    I would expect c-SCORE to increase as # of hands increases.
    For example, when I change from 60 hands to 100 hands per hour,
    c-SCORE stays exactly the same.

    2) When I increase spread above 1:4, c-SCORE barely changes.
    Going from 1:1 to 1:4, there is a significant increase, which makes sense; but c-SCORE for 1:8, 1:12,
    even 1:20 is not much different than at 1:4. Shouldn't c-SCORE continue to increase as spread increases?

    3) Changing percentage risk of ruin from 13.5% to 5% or even 2% does not result
    in much of a change in c-SCORE. Shouldn't there be an impact on c-SCORE as risk decreases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirdbaseman View Post
    1) When I change # of hands, the c-SCORE does not change.
    I would expect c-SCORE to increase as # of hands increases.
    For example, when I change from 60 hands to 100 hands per hour,
    c-SCORE stays exactly the same.
    Win rate per hour will change. But, c-SCOREs are a measure of the power of the strategy. Speed is not relevant.

    2) When I increase spread above 1:4, c-SCORE barely changes.
    Going from 1:1 to 1:4, there is a significant increase, which makes sense; but c-SCORE for 1:8, 1:12,
    even 1:20 is not much different than at 1:4. Shouldn't c-SCORE continue to increase as spread increases?
    That's because you are wonging. When wonging, increasing the spread above 1-4 has little effect.

    3) Changing percentage risk of ruin from 13.5% to 5% or even 2% does not result
    in much of a change in c-SCORE. Shouldn't there be an impact on c-SCORE as risk decreases?
    No. if you lower the risk, the bets will be lowered. But, it's still the same game. The count frequencies, EV per count and optimal bet ratios are unchanged.
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