Carnival games

[DoubleDownSoft21]

Munchkin mentioned on the podcast today that he expects some changes in the games in which players can touch the cards. He talked about carnival games, and that players would either have to wear gloves, or some could be dealt face up. That would be very interesting, as now games like Mississippi Stud and 3 Card Poker could become countable.

[houyi]

Munchkin mentioned on the podcast today that he expects some changes in the games in which players can touch the cards. He talked about carnival games, and that players would either have to wear gloves, or some could be dealt face up. That would be very interesting, as now games like Mississippi Stud and 3 Card Poker could become countable.

3 Card isn't beatable with counting.

Mississippi Stud could be plus EV with perfect knowledge and a full table, but the variance is such that it would be a horrible play.

[Dog Hand]

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how do you guys figure out the edge on BJ carnival games?
is it as simple as putting the bonus thing into CCVX and then trying it out with different plus counts until you see an edge?
how about if they give you a bonus for getting 21 with three sevens - how do you figure that out? manually?
does Don's book tell you how to do it?
if not, and you do it manually maybe its a good topic for a book. if CCVX can figure it out for you then I guess not

drunk,

If by "BJ carnival games" you actually mean BJ sidebets, then I can tell you my analysis generally combines Combinatorial Analysis with CVData simulations.

If you have a specific sidebet in mind, let us know and I or someone else here can show you how to analyze it.

If you read this thread:

https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...debet%20primer

you'll see a primer (on page 3) I posted on using CVData to simulate a sidebet.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

[DSchles]

does Don's book tell you how to do it?

See chapter 3 of BJA3.

Don

[James989]

drunk,

If by "BJ carnival games" you actually mean BJ sidebets, then I can tell you my analysis generally combines Combinatorial Analysis with CVData simulations.

If you have a specific sidebet in mind, let us know and I or someone else here can show you how to analyze it.

If you read this thread:

https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...debet%20primer

you'll see a primer (on page 3) I posted on using CVData to simulate a sidebet.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

Can you please help to analyse 21 + 3 BJ sidebet, the details rule : https://wizardofodds.com/games/black...-bets/21plus3/

Please check at the bottom of the webpage(Version 7, 8deck). The main BJ rules : 8 deck, RS2, RSA2, NoSurr, NoDAS, ENHC, penetration 87.5%, single player play against dealer.


I have done the 1 million shoe simulation(calculate all possible 21+3 combinations after each round, bet when ev > 0) and the ev/shoe(Flat bet) = 0.13unit, No of betting chance /shoe = 3.60, average ev per hand = 3.65%. Please help to verify my results.

[Stealth]

MS Analyzer.JPG

Here is a play analyzer for MS we used to evaluate and plan team plays.

PM me for the excel system if interested.

All the user variables have yellow backgrounds.

[BJPloppy]

Here is a play analyzer for MS we used to evaluate and plan team plays.

PM me for the excel system if interested.

+1

All of his software is excellent.

[ShipTheCookies]

Stealth, where are you getting a 4.92692% house edge using basic strategy and no HC info? Wizard lists it at 4.9149%.


https://wizardofodds.com/games/mississippi-stud/

[Dog Hand]

Stealth, where are you getting a 4.92692% house edge using basic strategy and no HC info? Wizard lists it at 4.9149%.


https://wizardofodds.com/games/mississippi-stud/

ShipTheCookies,

Perhaps a difference in suited 56? Playing is only a tiny bit better than folding.

Dog Hand

[Stealth]

Stealth, where are you getting a 4.92692% house edge using basic strategy and no HC info? Wizard lists it at 4.9149%.

I believe the numbers came from Beyond Counting

BTW, I said PM if interested. The excel system if free.

[James989]

I believe the numbers came from Beyond Counting

BTW, I said PM if interested. The excel system if free.

I can't PM. Please send to : [email protected]

Thanks

[ShipTheCookies]

I believe the numbers came from Beyond Counting

BTW, I said PM if interested. The excel system if free.

Thanks, I'll take a look at the book when I get some time. Not at home currently.

Not a subscriber so don't have PMs and we rarely play this game anymore.

[Stealth]

I believe the numbers came from Beyond Counting

BTW, I said PM if interested. The excel system if free.

"Stealth, where are you getting a 4.92692% house edge using basic strategy and no HC info? Wizard lists it at 4.9149%."

The Wizard number is correct and the same in BC-CAA when using his OPTIMAL choice.

I verified and the Edge and SD came from the "Recommended" numbers in BC-CAA page 372 (explanation of why recommended is also there)