Blackjack house edge calculator for depleted shoe

[James989]

Hi,

Is there any Blackjack House Edge Calculator/spreadsheet that can handle depleted Shoe ? Meaning it can calculate the "overall house edge" (and its relevant basic strategy)for any give shoe composition within seconds. With such info, we can calculate exactly(based on Kelly criterion) how much we should bet in next round . . . betting correlation = 1 !

There are 2 methods that can ESTIMATE the overall house edge :-

1) Based on True count - we can estimate the house edge.
2) Based on EOR - Add up all the pre-determined EORs of all removed cards, then add to the full deck house edge to get net house edge.

However, both above methods are not that accurate.

I need exact house edge after each round for online betting(more than 1.5 million daily betting turnover), MGP can handle this but it take too long to calculate it . . .


James

[lij45o6]

Hi,

Is there any Blackjack House Edge Calculator/spreadsheet that can handle depleted Shoe ? Meaning it can calculate the "overall house edge" (and its relevant basic strategy)for any give shoe composition within seconds. With such info, we can calculate exactly(based on Kelly criterion) how much we should bet in next round . . . betting correlation = 1 !

There are 2 methods that can ESTIMATE the overall house edge :-

1) Based on True count - we can estimate the house edge.
2) Based on EOR - Add up all the pre-determined EORs of all removed cards, then add to the full deck house edge to get net house edge.

However, both above methods are not that accurate.

I need exact house edge after each round for online betting(more than 1.5 million daily betting turnover), MGP can handle this but it take too long to calculate it . . .


James

The first things that came to mind :

https://github.com/mustgoplay/MGPs-BJ-CA
http://www.bjstrat.net/cgi-bin/cdca.cgi
https://sites.google.com/site/erfarmer/downloads
https://code.google.com/archive/p/simmar/

Another way you could go about (slowly) is to load-up CVData, remove the relevant cards, chose to re-shuffle after each round, and compute the overall EV for any fixed strategy.

[James989]

The first things that came to mind :

https://github.com/mustgoplay/MGPs-BJ-CA
http://www.bjstrat.net/cgi-bin/cdca.cgi
https://sites.google.com/site/erfarmer/downloads
https://code.google.com/archive/p/simmar/

Another way you could go about (slowly) is to load-up CVData, remove the relevant cards, chose to re-shuffle after each round, and compute the overall EV for any fixed strategy.

I know those software but it take more than 20 seconds to complete the task after each round, it may not so practical for online betting, I need something more user friendly, something like just remove the used cards(just used mouse to click the + or - to change the remaining cards in the shoe ) and then just one click to calculate the overall house edge. . . .LOL

simmar is to calculate the individual hand strategy, NOT overall house edge.


Thanks for your reply.

[peterlee]

For poker, we build a database for all combinations.
Then use prime numbers and bitwise to speed up searching.
Don't know if a computer can handle a database for all combinations of 6 decks? (no suit and TJQK as 10s, but about 300 different remaining cards levels)
Or any way to low down the size of the database?...say only even number for each card to be stored,...

[peterlee]

it take more than 20 seconds to complete the task after each round

bjstrat.net webpage version, only a second for calcualtion and refresh!

[lij45o6]

I know those software but it take more than 20 seconds to complete the task after each round, it may not so practical for online betting, I need something more user friendly, something like just remove the used cards(just used mouse to click the + or - to change the remaining cards in the shoe ) and then just one click to calculate the overall house edge. . . .LOL

simmar is to calculate the individual hand strategy, NOT overall house edge.


Thanks for your reply.

MPG's BJCA has a "Real-Time" section for any rules input on the starting page.

k_c's cdca also allows sub-one second computation based on composition-dependent play as well.

If you are looking at accurate overall round EV strategy, both can offer that; but you will need a CA to even gain such expectation.

Otherwise; straight-up card counting works as well.

[James989]

MPG's BJCA has a "Real-Time" section for any rules input on the starting page.

k_c's cdca also allows sub-one second computation based on composition-dependent play as well.

If you are looking at accurate overall round EV strategy, both can offer that; but you will need a CA to even gain such expectation.

Otherwise; straight-up card counting works as well.

Thanks dogman_1234, k_c's cdca is much user friendly and can generate HE much faster.