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    Quote Originally Posted by mansi19896 View Post
    there may be some truth in here in that part that i have noticed true count maybe is not the most important, but counting how many aces are still left. I have seen many time in deep negative if i would had played i would had won, because of the aces.
    but i dont know long term answer for it as im not that experienced yet
    Appreciate that you are new to the game but your perspective is misguided. Knowing how many aces may be an additive to your knowledge but True Count is mandatory.

    Some multi-level count systems recognize this addition and provide the ability to adjust your true count. HiOptII ASC is likely the best, or very near the best, for such but is more difficult and more error-prone especially to the amateur or semi-pro.

    Master a count you can use without error first, then consider your circumstances and then the possible upgrade.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansi19896 View Post
    thanks for the reply guys. Unfortunally i can only play at places where they change the box middle of it, so i have to jump in at 85% with good plus count, playing 6-7 rounds by flat betting
    assuming "good plus count" = +ev - you don't specify the rules - then have at it!!....you can beat them...but, why are you only 'flat betting' at that point???....spread, baby, spread...if allowed

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    “If this is your only option to play...”, and you play. then you are addicted, need to go for treatment.
    Disregard this poor advice....btw, "takes one to know one, imo"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    Disregard this poor advice....btw, "takes one to know one, imo"
    Did you read post#6 ? Games where 4 decks are cut off are not worth playing. Most all the pros here will tell you that they don’t play such a game. So, congratulate yourself, you are one of the few, [redacted gratuitous insult], that play such games.
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    thanks for the advice, but what exactly is HiOptII ASC. This is something new i never heard. Counting is simple you can do with own head too, plus calculations how much is your average win per game sessions etc... Is this some kind of software, the colin jones has mentioned ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    assuming "good plus count" = +ev - you don't specify the rules - then have at it!!....you can beat them...but, why are you only 'flat betting' at that point???....spread, baby, spread...if allowed

    good luck
    i understand, but i cant afford to play that kind of bankroll lol.
    but i have an idea now, perhaps you can help with and its challenge to everyone here actually. I may go little off topic and dont know is this against rules. I apologise if i do something this, but its something very valuable. Its something that has never happened before human kind and i doubt ever will.....so ofcourse skepticism and doubt if something is too good to be true then its not to be trusted are the first reactions and your right, but this is different situation.:

    I am in professional sport trader community, where most trustworthy member there whos been winning front of everyone for decade declared according to he`s signals that there is most easiest bet ever happening this year and he`s going to put all bankrolls into that single bet that he will easily win houses, cars worth of money with it. Advised everyone to bet on it. And im afraid he`s not mistaken this time either. My idea is if you can afford to make that bet, could you perhaps send some winning money to me too i know it sounds crazy, but its definately more certain then playing casino games against house edge, because if you see the details of that bet and how its going its like arbitrage, which going to win and odds will continue to drop... I know if i could afford i would definately bet big, because if someone that tells that kind of heavy statement, you just had to take he`s word for it.
    I have seen him in action my own eyes. Its something that can make lot of people rich and if you have some money won from blackjack for example, why not to make that bet on that one too and take some chance to trust it....
    But if your person who just plays casino game for fun entertainment, blackjack namely, and its not for you i understand. But if anyone would be interested in it, let me know.

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    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Huh?
    You need a no solicitation rule.

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    That’s not solicitation, that’s chutzpah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Bet on Trump. Can't lose!
    I didn't watch but understand the Nevada debate among the democrats was a hoot or travesty......depending on your bent. But Norm doesn't like political debate here but I find NOTHING wrong with being a conservative. LOL
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