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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    International visitors can usually play on a program, the terms of which depend on how much front money you show.
    Can you elaborate on this?

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    Fantastic info! Thanks for sharing. Honestly one of the most informative threads in a long time. I hate opening up a thread and finding non blackjack related topics or Zeebabar going on and on about caed counting 101 topics as if he is an expert. So refreshing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    Fantastic info! Thanks for sharing. Honestly one of the most informative threads in a long time.
    Even if it reveals Australia is terrible for playing BJ? Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbrellaman View Post
    Can you elaborate on this?
    There are several types of VIP programs offered by Australian casinos to individual high rollers and international visitors. These are primarily determined by the particular game and the buy in amount. The terms and minimum spend differ between casinos but in all cases to qualify for a rebate the player must play rated.

    With regard to Blackjack in Sydney a player will need to join as a casino member with a minimum of $A25,000 front money which can be deposited into a holding account. Complimentary points of various types are awarded to the player based on average betting levels, participation rate and time at the table. Special coloured chips are used which indicates to the pit that the player is on a VIP program. A VIP player is assigned a host who can also negotiate air fares, accommodation, meals and drinks.

    Baccarat and Roulette players can take advantage of another type of VIP program that requires a minimum of $A10,000 in front money and the player must turn over a certain amount of money at the tables within a specified time in order to qualify for a rebate.

    There are no programs available for Pontoon.

    In summary, it’s best to contact the casino prior to your visit and request a host who will negotiate a package for you. Alternatively, if the VIP programs are not suitable and you still wish to play I suggest requesting a manager’s pass which can be issued for three days subject to an identity check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    There are several types of VIP programs offered by Australian casinos to individual high rollers and international visitors. These are primarily determined by the particular game and the buy in amount. The terms and minimum spend differ between casinos but in all cases to qualify for a rebate the player must play rated.

    With regard to Blackjack in Sydney a player will need to join as a casino member with a minimum of $A25,000 front money which can be deposited into a holding account. Complimentary points of various types are awarded to the player based on average betting levels, participation rate and time at the table. Special coloured chips are used which indicates to the pit that the player is on a VIP program. A VIP player is assigned a host who can also negotiate air fares, accommodation, meals and drinks.

    Baccarat and Roulette players can take advantage of another type of VIP program that requires a minimum of $A10,000 in front money and the player must turn over a certain amount of money at the tables within a specified time in order to qualify for a rebate.

    There are no programs available for Pontoon.

    In summary, it’s best to contact the casino prior to your visit and request a host who will negotiate a package for you. Alternatively, if the VIP programs are not suitable and you still wish to play I suggest requesting a manager’s pass which can be issued for three days subject to an identity check.
    awesome man this is good info.

    i have no issue putting up 25k front money. as long as once they back me off they dont just keep all the money i wire into an account....

    how many hours do you see me getting in before they tell me no more? is a loss rebate also something a host might be able to do?
    May the Variance be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    how many hours do you see me getting in before they tell me no more? is a loss rebate also something a host might be able to do?
    I don't foresee you lasting particularly long at any given casino, slightly longer at the larger ones like Crown Melbourne, or The Star Sydney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    awesome man this is good info.

    i have no issue putting up 25k front money. as long as once they back me off they dont just keep all the money i wire into an account....

    how many hours do you see me getting in before they tell me no more? is a loss rebate also something a host might be able to do?
    Australian casinos are subject to anti money laundering and counter terrorism financing regulations when dealing with amounts over $A10,000. This means that the source of the money needs to be clearly identified so for international visitors bank wire transfers are the safest, easiest and quickest way to move money into and out of a casino holding account. Once set up you are free to draw on these funds for your gambling activities. Win or lose the balance is adjusted accordingly but at all times your money is safe…no-one is going to steal it.

    In Australia, there is a difference between a VIP program and a rebate. A VIP program is a set of playing conditions which a casino offers for a particular game, the details of which is dependent on the amount of front money you show. A rebate is an amount of money refunded to the gambler based on total turnover within a specified time frame and this can form part of a VIP program.

    Blackjack has a relatively low house edge so Australian casinos don’t really offer that much to the player. For example, a blackjack player can play on a VIP program but will not receive a rebate. Instead, they are offered a series of complimentary points which can then be converted to cash.

    Baccarat and Roulette have higher house edges so the VIP programs are more generous. For example, a Baccarat player who turns over $A200,000 within 28 days will qualify for a 0.7% rebate.

    The above are just some examples which can vary by casino and by player. I suggest that you contact a casino host to sort out the details so you understand what will be offered to you prior to your visit. Good luck.
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