When to relocate even though the table has a positive count

**bwssr** · 12-14-2019, 08:03 AM

Was wonging it last night and found a table with a positive count. Did fairly well for the first few hands but it went sour after a while even though the count was still positive. At one point I had running count of 8 with less than 3 decks left so I started increasing my bets but the dealer was getting all the good hands. If I had an 18 she would get 19. If I had a 21 she would get a push. An old guy on the other end of the table was betting 4 to 5 hundred a hand was doing pretty good and was ahead. What are you guys doing in situation like this? Play on or leave?

**DSchles** · 12-14-2019, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by bwssr

An old guy on the other end of the table was betting 4 to 5 hundred a hand was doing pretty good and was ahead. What are you guys doing in situation like this? Play on or leave?

Clearly, the answer is to switch seats with the old guy!

Seriously, what is your question: If the TC is +3, but you can't win a hand, should you just leave the table? Er, no, you shouldn't.

Don

**21forme** · 12-14-2019, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by DSchles

Er, no, you shouldn't.

I'm surprised NO wasn'tcapitalized with a few exclamation points.

**Midwest Player** · 12-14-2019, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by DSchles

Clearly, the answer is to switch seats with the old guy!

Seriously, what is your question: If the TC is +3, but you can't win a hand, should you just leave the table? Er, no, you shouldn't.

Don

I had this happen to me several times. I'm winning and other player is losing and wants to get my cards. He jumps to the vacant spot on the other side of me so he will get my cards.

**ZeeBabar** · 12-15-2019, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Midwest Player

I had this happen to me several times. I'm winning and other player is losing and wants to get my cards. He jumps to the vacant spot on the other side of me so he will get my cards.

MWP, I think that is voodoo too!

**Eye of the Eagle** · 12-15-2019, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Midwest Player

I had this happen to me several times. I'm winning and other player is losing and wants to get my cards. He jumps to the vacant spot on the other side of me so he will get my cards.

One of the reasons why I like to sit at 1st or 3rd base. No monkey in the middle with a gap. I don't hardly ever play at a table with more then 2 players.

**JBourne** · 12-16-2019, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Midwest Player

I had this happen to me several times. I'm winning and other player is losing and wants to get my cards. He jumps to the vacant spot on the other side of me so he will get my cards.

One of my favorite moments. Guy at 3rd base is losing constantly as I jump between one and two hands and play lots of deviations. He says I am f***ing up the order of the the cards and finally jumps to my right. He has a pat hand with a huge bet. I deviate, take the dealers bust card for a 21, then the dealer draws 20 and he loses. He hit the table so hard the chips bounced up! But then he left and I had the table all to myself.

**Ryemo** · 12-14-2019, 08:35 AM

If you’re contemplating leaving the table because you’ve experienced some short-term negative variance, then you haven’t studied enough.

**BetWise21** · 12-14-2019, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Ryemo

If you’re contemplating leaving the table because you’ve experienced some short-term negative variance, then you haven’t studied enough.

exactly, positive count play is all we are looking for, the math will fix the rest

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**bwssr** · 12-14-2019, 09:41 AM

I just started playing the game this year. That is why I ask. Read several books including Stanford wong's pro blackjack. Still learning.

**Hsiaodi** · 12-14-2019, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by bwssr

Was wonging it last night and found a table with a positive count. Did fairly well for the first few hands but it went sour after a while even though the count was still positive. At one point I had running count of 8 with less than 3 decks left so I started increasing my bets but the dealer was getting all the good hands. If I had an 18 she would get 19. If I had a 21 she would get a push. An old guy on the other end of the table was betting 4 to 5 hundred a hand was doing pretty good and was ahead. What are you guys doing in situation like this? Play on or leave?

Voodoo

**BJGenius007** · 12-14-2019, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by bwssr

Was wonging it last night and found a table with a positive count. Did fairly well for the first few hands but it went sour after a while even though the count was still positive. At one point I had running count of 8 with less than 3 decks left so I started increasing my bets but the dealer was getting all the good hands. If I had an 18 she would get 19. If I had a 21 she would get a push. An old guy on the other end of the table was betting 4 to 5 hundred a hand was doing pretty good and was ahead. What are you guys doing in situation like this? Play on or leave?

You should stay put. Some people are winning. It is the confirmation that the counting works. You only need to worry when TC are high and most people are losing, especailly AP and Basic Strategy players and it lasted for a long period of time or all night.

**Optimus Prime** · 12-14-2019, 09:38 AM

Think about it this way: just because the good cards are coming out doesn’t mean you’ll get them. Dealer gets just as many BJs, 20s, etc. as you do. And if the count rises in a round, that means you were at a disadvantage during that round (you just didn’t know it) because more small cards than big cards came out.