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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Wrong. Theft is theft.

    There have been a number of APs over the years who have borrowed money or shared bankroll and stolen from other players. The well-known ones, who ripped off people for tens of thousands, that come to mind are Darren, Iheart... from BJ21 about 10 years ago, and ripped off a number of people; and JWT who is a chameleon of identities and continues to rip people off with tales of selling good plays.
    I have only vague recollections if JWT, but Iheart was a terrible disappointment. His prior excellent reputation went straight down the toilet. I knew a couple of guys who lost money to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Wrong. Theft is theft.

    There have been a number of APs over the years who have borrowed money or shared bankroll and stolen from other players. The well-known ones, who ripped off people for tens of thousands, that come to mind are Darren, Iheart... from BJ21 about 10 years ago, and ripped off a number of people; and JWT who is a chameleon of identities and continues to rip people off with tales of selling good plays.
    True. I wouldn't lend nor ask to borrow money from anyone unless I knew them exceptionally well.

    If someone shows up with $200 as their total bankroll, isn't it kind of obvious they aren't there to count, but rather to scam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Wrong. Theft is theft.

    There have been a number of APs over the years who have borrowed money or shared bankroll and stolen from other players. The well-known ones, who ripped off people for tens of thousands, that come to mind are Darren, Iheart... from BJ21 about 10 years ago, and ripped off a number of people; and JWT who is a chameleon of identities and continues to rip people off with tales of selling good plays.
    Was Iheart......the person who put on a Midwest green chip party in southern MI years ago. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Was Iheart......the person who put on a Midwest green chip party in southern MI years ago. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.
    He was from the midwest, but I'm not aware of him doing a GC party there. Maybe he did, but as I'm not from the midwest, it wouldn't have interested me. Are you thinking of creepingpanther/ouchez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    He was from the midwest, but I'm not aware of him doing a GC party there. Maybe he did, but as I'm not from the midwest, it wouldn't have interested me. Are you thinking of creepingpanther/ouchez?
    No, I'm not thinking of creepingpanther/ouchez. I know he has put on a lot of parties, but I never went to any of them. I did meet Ouchez many years ago at the Kewadin casino in the Soo. He offered to share his hotel room with me, but I think I already had a room at the Budget Host hotel in the Soo.

    This party was near St Joseph MI near Lake MI. It was before Bootlegger died.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 10-27-2019 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    No, I'm not thinking of creepingpanther/ouchez. I know he has put on a lot of parties, but I never went to any one them. I did meet him many years ago at the Kewadin casino in the Soo. He offered to share his hotel room with me, but I think I already had a room at the Budget Host hotel in the Soo.

    This party was near St Joseph MI near Lake MI. It was before Bootlegger died.
    It seems to me (recollection only, not 100% certain) that Midwest parties were put on by Creeping Panther (Ouchez). Also seems to me that Uheart spoke at one of them. I briefly considered going to one if these, until warned by a well respected individual that CP spelled trouble.

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    Zee, did your losing streak turn around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Zee, did your losing streak turn around?
    Well no. I did go, play, left up $125 and technically broke the streak, went back again the next day, won $200 and left, then yesterday, went and lost $400., so I am still losing.

    There is this chain of three casinos (2 in MO, one across the border in IL) that suddenly started dealing 6 decks down to 26 cards, seem to have become very tolerant and I still seem to lose there every time. Moreover cards seem to come out extremely clumped and count is almost always either high positive or negative or takes wild swings. While in other casinos, you could, at times, go an entire shoe or two without count ever going high, in this chains casino it’s not the case. I am beginning to suspect they have some thing going there.

    In any case, I think I have to go elsewhere, got a couple of trips planned this month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Well no. I did go, play, left up $125 and technically broke the streak, went back again the next day, won $200 and left, then yesterday, went and lost $400., so I am still losing.
    Well I consider that breaking the losing streak.

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    I think this post may identify me to the casino but it’s okay, I don’t want to play st their deeply dealt shoe games any more. In St. Louis, the chain (Hollywood, River City and the Argosy across the River in Granite City) went from cutting of 1.2 to 1.5 decks of a 6 deck shoe to just about 26 cards using a notch on the shoe. Real deep penetration. Moreover, heat has disappeared. They don’t seem to mind much even when players spread from one spot of $10 to 2 x $100, Wong in or out, sit by and drop out for a round or two. It’s just weird.

    I win more at the other casinos where pen is not so deep, consistently lose at these casinos. I have suspicions about their ASM s’ shut won’t get into that here. Bottom line is that the count shifts heavily, cards clump in weird ways.

    The other day, RC at about 15 with just a bit under 2 decks left, 4 ploppies and me playing 2 x $80, the cards come out with one Ace, no ten cards, dealer has a 7 showing. I bust out on 3 cards on both hands, another busts out, a ploppy stands on a 16, another ploppy gets 4 Aces in a row on his 12 and stands, another ploppy stands on his Ace, 6. Dealer has a ten underneath, the only 10 and beats everyone but one with a 17.

    I am upset, count is sky high, do my act, have only $105 in front of me, take another $100, place my two hands, one with $105, the other with $100. Dealer deals to 6 hands plus himself. No one gets a BJ but everyone gets a face card, dealer has a $10 showing, no Ace underneath. Everyone stands, dealer flips and has another face card. That is 14 tens in a row! Dealer calls out the guy standing at the empty carny game at one side, the roulette guy at the other side, pit also comes by to see 14 straight 10 cards on table. The Pit smiles wryly, looks at the ASM. This followed the previous round where 5 Aces came out with no BJ.

    At a game that appears this attractive with deep pen and no heat, dealer using a notch.....losing consistently 2-3 times a week, bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    I think this post may identify me to the casino but it’s okay, I don’t want to play st their deeply dealt shoe games any more. In St. Louis, the chain (Hollywood, River City and the Argosy across the River in Granite City) went from cutting of 1.2 to 1.5 decks of a 6 deck shoe to just about 26 cards using a notch on the shoe. Real deep penetration. Moreover, heat has disappeared. They don’t seem to mind much even when players spread from one spot of $10 to 2 x $100, Wong in or out, sit by and drop out for a round or two. It’s just weird.

    I win more at the other casinos where pen is not so deep, consistently lose at these casinos. I have suspicions about their ASM s’ shut won’t get into that here. Bottom line is that the count shifts heavily, cards clump in weird ways.

    The other day, RC at about 15 with just a bit under 2 decks left, 4 ploppies and me playing 2 x $80, the cards come out with one Ace, no ten cards, dealer has a 7 showing. I bust out on 3 cards on both hands, another busts out, a ploppy stands on a 16, another ploppy gets 4 Aces in a row on his 12 and stands, another ploppy stands on his Ace, 6. Dealer has a ten underneath, the only 10 and beats everyone but one with a 17.

    I am upset, count is sky high, do my act, have only $105 in front of me, take another $100, place my two hands, one with $105, the other with $100. Dealer deals to 6 hands plus himself. No one gets a BJ but everyone gets a face card, dealer has a $10 showing, no Ace underneath. Everyone stands, dealer flips and has another face card. That is 14 tens in a row! Dealer calls out the guy standing at the empty carny game at one side, the roulette guy at the other side, pit also comes by to see 14 straight 10 cards on table. The Pit smiles wryly, looks at the ASM. This followed the previous round where 5 Aces came out with no BJ.

    At a game that appears this attractive with deep pen and no heat, dealer using a notch.....losing consistently 2-3 times a week, bizarre.
    Is this really what this forum is? I said previously that I wouldn't respond to any of Zee's posts, and I mostly don't. I gave up awhile ago with most of you others.
    A lot of my posts end up getting deleted by someone...I really don't know how or why?
    But seriously is this the guest forum member that posts the most, controls this forum, and is giving advice now? Along with a couple other posters?
    I honestly do not understand.
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 11-01-2019 at 02:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    I don’t want to play st their deeply dealt shoe games any more.
    Zee - I can recommended some casinos that cut 2.5 decks off of 6, if you'd like. I can also recommended some CSM games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Is this really what this forum is? I said previously that I wouldn't respond to any of Zee's posts, and I mostly don't. I gave up awhile ago with most of you others.
    A lot of my posts end up getting deleted by someone...I really don't know how or why?
    But seriously is this the guest forum member that posts the most, controls this forum, and is giving advice now? Along with a couple other posters?
    I honestly do not understand.
    If you honestly do not understand, this forum is way over your head, go back to kindergarten or learn to ignore posters you don’t care for. It requires discipline.

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