From the airport, going home-Las Vegas last day.

**ZeeBabar** · 10-14-2019, 04:36 PM

I was tired, was winning on trip, decided to sleep late. I checked out of my North Strip casino around 11:00, Pandora playing great music, the best version of Jimi Hendrix’s “Vodoo Chile”, by Clapton and Winwood live at Madison Square (check it out on Youtube).

I debated not playing, preserving my win, came to the Forum and found Don’s comments on yesterday’s post.. I found myself remembering all you guys ridiculing me for “preserving a win”, thought about what you guys would do in my place, decided I should get some more time in.

Drove up to a casino on North Tropicana, played a $10 DD game as the $25 tables were drawing much attention. I played an hour, won $150. I then drove over to one of the casinos on Flamingo, still trying not to lose. I walked in, ate at the Panda Express and thought about what to do before going to the airport in 3 hours. After lunch, I walked over to the movie theatres thinking I could preserve my wins, watch a movie and head to airport.

Again, I thought of the forum views on “preserving the win”, went and played DD, $25 minimum. About an hour later, up $250, I quit. I could have played another hour but this was, by far, my best short trip to Las Vegas ever (some dozen trips over the past 2 years) and I gave in to the temptation to preserve my win.

Here I am at the airport, 2-3 hours before flight. I had won $2005, $350, $400 and $400 in my 3.5 days and 22 table hours. Expenses would be around $650.

This is likely my last trip till next Fall. I agree it’s rash of me to post it like I have. I am convinced that there are casino spies here and some of you would be able to guess some of the casino names. Maybe next visit, I should shave off my facial hair, change toupees and wear glasses (so far LASIK, despite night glares, has worked) again.

**LauraBlack** · 10-14-2019, 06:04 PM

It sounds like you had a great trip!

**albee** · 10-14-2019, 06:16 PM

Zee, you averaged about $900. per day before expenses. That's a nice win and you'll continue to get comps for future visits.
Thanks for sharing your trip report.

**Talmadge** · 10-14-2019, 08:46 PM

I've enjoyed reading your trip teports Zee.
I'm glad that you decided to get some more hours in on your last day rather than stopping play because you were up.
It worked out quite well for you in booking that loss at your home casino while having a winning trip overall.

**Midwest Player** · 10-14-2019, 09:02 PM

Zee, are you now in the black for the year?

**21forme** · 10-15-2019, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Midwest Player

Zee, are you now in the black for the year?

You really need to read Don's posts in the day 3 thread. They apply to you, as well, so foolishly focused on session results.

**ZeeBabar** · 10-15-2019, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by 21forme

You really need to read Don's posts in the day 3 thread. They apply to you, as well, so foolishly focused on session results.

A smoker understands that smoking is bad but that does not mean he can quit smoking immediately. It takes time. Same thing with a frugal person, living hand to mouth most of his life. Losing a session hurts and it will take time and trainings before it stops hurting. I no longer fret over losing $300 in a session, but $500+ hurts, $1000 stings more. In time I will either get better or stay at the stakes I play.

Thanks to you and others, I am mostly not underbetting these days, hopefully, I will improve.

**BoSox** · 10-15-2019, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

A smoker understands that smoking is bad but that does not mean he can quit smoking immediately. It takes time. Same thing with a frugal person, living hand to mouth most of his life.

You can also find plenty of people with money who live way below their means.

**ZeeBabar** · 10-15-2019, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by BoSox

You can also find plenty of people with money who live way below their means.

Well, in my case, it’s hand to mouth. Fixed income just enough to cover expenses. My BJ is the supplemental income used strictly for luxuries like a vacation or car.

**BoSox** · 10-16-2019, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

Well, in my case, it’s hand to mouth. Fixed income just enough to cover expenses.

Zee this alone is saying a lot.

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

My BJ is the supplemental income used strictly for luxuries like a vacation or car.

Taking into account just how important an AP's playing bank is for longevity purposes, would an AP with an $80k playing bank even consider using expenses for luxuries at that point in time? I think not considering what it will do to their risk of ruin formulas. Zee, with that type of thinking in mind you possibly should consider that you are playing off of something like a $60k bank in reality while keeping $20k in a reserve fund. Don't take this the wrong way it is only an opinion.

**ZeeBabar** · 10-16-2019, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by BoSox

Zee this alone is saying a lot.

Taking into account just how important an AP's playing bank is for longevity purposes, would an AP with an $80k playing bank even consider using expenses for luxuries at that point in time? I think not considering what it will do to their risk of ruin formulas. Zee, with that type of thinking in mind you possibly should consider that you are playing off of something like a $60k bank in reality while keeping $20k in a reserve fund. Don't take this the wrong way it is only an opinion.

Thanks Bosox. You are probably correct.

**Counting_Is_Fun** · 10-16-2019, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by BoSox

Zee this alone is saying a lot.

Taking into account just how important an AP's playing bank is for longevity purposes, would an AP with an $80k playing bank even consider using expenses for luxuries at that point in time? I think not considering what it will do to their risk of ruin formulas. Zee, with that type of thinking in mind you possibly should consider that you are playing off of something like a $60k bank in reality while keeping $20k in a reserve fund. Don't take this the wrong way it is only an opinion.

Zee, BoSox is a smart dude, with another good observation. Be truthful with yourself what your real bankroll is. If you are spending out of it... luxuries, vacations etc...then that is not your real bankroll. Maybe that is why you are so sensitive to the losses...you don't trust your bankroll, because you know it's not real.
And just keep in mind...playing green at DD like 1-6, you can sit down and lose like 1K in like 10 minutes very easily. But of course sometimes you sit down and win the same amount...that's what kind of makes it fun. As long as you are sure you are playing BS and like I18...and NOT under betting, or over betting...you will win in the long run. And that under betting will kill you just like anything else. Good luck.

**Midwest Player** · 10-16-2019, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

Well, in my case, it’s hand to mouth. Fixed income just enough to cover expenses. My BJ is the supplemental income used strictly for luxuries like a vacation or car.

Zee, I think most retired folks have income coming in thats just about enough to cover expenses. I have only about $200 more a month coming in than I spend. However, my Dad use to say he could go and pay cash for 5 new Cadillac's if he wanted to. I do think most folks also have a nest egg in case they need it, and if you don't I suggest you take part of your $80,000 bankroll and make it your nest egg.

I can't understand why you have $80,000 that is just sitting there not earning any income. Take $10,000 to $12,000 for a playing bankroll and invest the balance in a money market account or some other liquid investment and earn some interest. Just $50,000 invested at 2 percent interest will give you a $1,000 in interest per year.