When a count goes negative early in an 8 deck shoe, what are some of the best excuses or pieces of advice to drop one/both hands?
A 6 deck shoe, sticking around isn’t necessarily the worst thing, especially when they’re no options. An 8 deck shoe on the other hand, can be a long and excruciating painful process to fight through.
Interestingly enough, either scenario, if shoe is deeply cut, can still provide max bet opportunities. Really depends on where you are in the shoe when count tanks, wheather to stay or not.
Agree. But one good trick is to pretend to be a smoker...if you don't like the current count, make a fuss about needing a smoke. Stand back from the table, pretend to smoke, then rejoin whenever you like. Smokers are known to be impulsive, have the craving etc. Works well. Pit and other players don't care...real smokers do it all the time.
If you can afford it, a negative ramp followed by short breaks might help. For example, you play $5 at TC -3, $10 at TC-2, $15 at TC-1, $20 at TC0, $25 at TC+1, $75 at TC+2, $100 at TC +3, and $150 at all higher counts.
Otherwise, first time below TC-2, stand by your spot and text. Use an act for another phone break. Bathroom break if negative TC persists, return at end of shoe. Leave only if plenty of other tables available.
Ensure you are not being paranoid, usually at red chip 8 deck tables, no one cares and interest only goes up if you are placing $50+ bets and have a huge pile of chips.
Zee
Actually, for a person who has a bloated bankroll for the stakes played, you have a really good strategy, but a real lousy execution.
First, let’s fix your spread, especially since you have to compensate for raising your bets in a minus count. First, your game likely has a .5% edge at +1, and your jump to $25 is fine. And then, you jump to $75 at+2, which is great - you’ve tripled your bet, though you’ve only doubled your edge to 1% (helps compensate for raising bets in a losing range). Then, you’ve slowed down your ramp to $100 at + 3 to a 33% growth, while your operating margin has increased 50% over +2 - a clear underbet. And then you max out at $150, a 1-6 spread for anything at +4 and over. Think about this and rethink your ramp.
This really restricts your profitability. Once in a while, Ill play a $10 min shoe game. I’ll play $25 off the top, dropping to whatever I feel like in neg counts worse than -2, jump all around in questionable marginal counts, and then really jam it - likely changing bets by the hand. I’ll get up to 250 to 400 (400 rare at $10 game). The strategy will reduce SCORE, but is highly effective and profitable, compensated by huge effective true spread.
Why, just so very very recently, I played such a $10 min shoe game, with $15 or $20 off the top, raising in negative counts, jumping all over in marginal counts, maxing out at 2x250.
I’m pleased to say the Huns nicely contributed to my personal AP relief Fund. Zee, yo7 have the bankroll to fool around like this..
Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 10-10-2019 at 07:24 PM.
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