Labor Day beating

[Counting_Is_Fun]

I rented a room for a couple days over labor day. My business is picking up so figured I'd try to get in as much time as possible at BJ since I will have to move it secondary in my pursuits over the next couple months. I played approx. 6 hours first day and 8 hours second. Spread was 1-6 but spreading to two hands of 1-6 at TC of +4. I woke up on checkout day down about $180. Brought $2000 for trip BR. I figured I'd play a 2 hour session before heading home, but open the spread up to 1-12 since won't be returning for quite sometime. To get to the point here, I played a shoe where hit a pair of aces drew more aces split 4 times and hit very weak draws on all the aces (min bet here, was at close to neutral count). Next shoe halfway through TC +8 3 decks reaming. Time to jam it in and hit the road. I spread to 16 units. Hit a pair of aces, and sure as shit drew more aces and split to the max of 4 hands and drew the same damn shit cards as the shoe before. I mean these hands were all practically identical as the shoe before. I did get creamed here, but I can now confirm shuffle tracking and ace sequencing is a very valuable skill worth pursuing and is where I will be spending much of my free time training.

Hard to win at 6 deck if you are only spreading 1-12 depending on game rules, # of players, not wonging, pen etc.

[Counting_Is_Fun]

It's not that it's hard to win...it is that you will win less...

Ok then I will say it in a different way...if you want to play for like maybe $20/hr then have fun.

[ZeeBabar]

Ok then I will say it in a different way...if you want to play for like maybe $20/hr then have fun.

In Las Vegas, at 6deck, on a slow midweek, midday, how long are you going to last spreading from $15 to $200 or at DD from $25 to $200? What do you think are the limits that you can get away with for a two hour session?

[Freightman]

Hard to win at 6 deck if you are only spreading 1-12 depending on game rules, # of players, not wonging, pen etc.

Okay. Heads up, house edge, .5.
What spreads do you need to beat 4/6, 4.5/6, 5.0/6, 5.5/6.

Further, can u sim on the fly.

I think your comment is ridiculous, but then again, so are many of your other comments. I’ve beaten games at low spread and Hugh soread. Also used bug spreads to beat games where only low soread is required.

Always sim the game in your head when sitting down as to what spread u need to beat a game, and then what spread you can get away with.

[ZeeBabar]

Okay. Heads up, house edge, .5.
What spreads do you need to beat 4/6, 4.5/6, 5.0/6, 5.5/6.

Further, can u sim on the fly.

I think your comment is ridiculous, but then again, so are many of your other comments. I’ve beaten games at low spread and Hugh soread. Also used bug spreads to beat games where only low soread is required.

Always sim the game in your head when sitting down as to what spread u need to beat a game, and then what spread you can get away with.

Freightman, I know the spread I need to use but always uncertain about what I can get away with. I end up underbetting. I fear getting backed off and losing a store or being flyered to sister stores.

Yesterday, at a $15 min, 6 deck game, having been down $500, I decided to hell with it, I am going to bet optimally. I cash $200, dealer announces it, pit comes over, notes it on computer (even if I have not given name, they have been tracking me as I am a semi- regular) and hangs around. TC climbs quickly and at TC+2, optimal bet (on my 1-10 spread),is $90, I bet it and lose. TC climbs higher but I still have just $100 in chips, so I play 2 hands of $50, lose both, TC has climbed. I cash another $200 and with steaming act, place two spots 0f $100, lose one, tie one. Now, I have a hundred in chips left, TC still high. I split the $100 into two $50 (rather than get more money out to bet when I have $100 in front of me). Win both. Pit is assessing me standing right there while I try to keep a frustrated steaming act that maybe is not fooling him. I just keep playing $50 on each hand for the necrotic several rounds and keep winning. When count returned to Zero, I had recovered my money betting two hands of $50.

However, I could not help wondering how I could have bet and won so much more if I had not gone so concerned about getting thrown out. However, the pit was standing there watching from the start, watching me lose the first few rounds as small cards kept coming out. Maybe he was counting all along and my staying at 2 x $50 was what allowed me to get away.

I sure wish I could be more sure about my boundaries.

[BoSox]

However, I could not help wondering how I could have bet and won so much more if I had not gone so concerned about getting thrown out. However, the pit was standing there watching from the start, watching me lose the first few rounds as small cards kept coming out. Maybe he was counting all along and my staying at 2 x $50 was what allowed me to get away.

I sure wish I could be more sure about my boundaries.

If there was plenty of equal or greater type action going on simultaneously throughout the pit, it was all about watching you and you already lost most of your boundaries. If on the other hand, you are playing on average at a higher level than the plops around you that could be a sign that the place is just a sweatshop.

[RTR2021]

Freightman, I know the spread I need to use but always uncertain about what I can get away with. I end up underbetting. I fear getting backed off and losing a store or being flyered to sister stores.

Yesterday, at a $15 min, 6 deck game, having been down $500, I decided to hell with it, I am going to bet optimally. I cash $200, dealer announces it, pit comes over, notes it on computer (even if I have not given name, they have been tracking me as I am a semi- regular) and hangs around. TC climbs quickly and at TC+2, optimal bet (on my 1-10 spread),is $90, I bet it and lose. TC climbs higher but I still have just $100 in chips, so I play 2 hands of $50, lose both, TC has climbed. I cash another $200 and with steaming act, place two spots 0f $100, lose one, tie one. Now, I have a hundred in chips left, TC still high. I split the $100 into two $50 (rather than get more money out to bet when I have $100 in front of me). Win both. Pit is assessing me standing right there while I try to keep a frustrated steaming act that maybe is not fooling him. I just keep playing $50 on each hand for the necrotic several rounds and keep winning. When count returned to Zero, I had recovered my money betting two hands of $50.

However, I could not help wondering how I could have bet and won so much more if I had not gone so concerned about getting thrown out. However, the pit was standing there watching from the start, watching me lose the first few rounds as small cards kept coming out. Maybe he was counting all along and my staying at 2 x $50 was what allowed me to get away.

I sure wish I could be more sure about my boundaries.

You seem a little paranoid. Hard to say. Some PBs just enjoy watching the action. I'll get watched in identical situations, then later be given advice..."hey that all went wrong because you doubled against that X - you don't want to do that."

[Freightman]

You seem a little paranoid. Hard to say. Some PBs just enjoy watching the action. I'll get watched in identical situations, then later be given advice..."hey that all went wrong because you doubled against that X - you don't want to do that."

Similar to this, this fellow next to me says - I was losing when I was putting out my chips with my left hand, but now, I’m putting out the chips with my right hand and I’m winning.

I asked - so what is it that you’re doing with your right hand, that you weren’t with your left?

[UncleChoo]

Similar to this, this fellow next to me says - I was losing when I was putting out my chips with my left hand, but now, I’m putting out the chips with my right hand and I’m winning.

I asked - so what is it that you’re doing with your right hand, that you weren’t with your left?

Good one, Freightman! Maybe you missed your calling in life. Take a a break from BJ and take the material on the road.

[stopgambling]

It is hilarious to me that folks think the pit don't know what we are doing . Yes , there maybe a few that don't quite know or want to follow the whole 6 deck to see if we are counting. The truth is most pit got an idea of our skill level. i have made a few assessment of the skill level of pit personnel and at the end i confirmed it because of backed off from them or just heavy scrutiny and counter measures. i knew something seems wrong but refused to believe in my assessment,and i paid wit a price. Hint , not just 1 type of technique either.

[Freightman]

Freightman, I know the spread I need to use but always uncertain about what I can get away with. I end up underbetting. I fear getting backed off and losing a store or being flyered to sister stores.

Yesterday, at a $15 min, 6 deck game, having been down $500, I decided to hell with it, I am going to bet optimally. I cash $200, dealer announces it, pit comes over, notes it on computer (even if I have not given name, they have been tracking me as I am a semi- regular) and hangs around. TC climbs quickly and at TC+2, optimal bet (on my 1-10 spread),is $90, I bet it and lose. TC climbs higher but I still have just $100 in chips, so I play 2 hands of $50, lose both, TC has climbed. I cash another $200 and with steaming act, place two spots 0f $100, lose one, tie one. Now, I have a hundred in chips left, TC still high. I split the $100 into two $50 (rather than get more money out to bet when I have $100 in front of me). Win both. Pit is assessing me standing right there while I try to keep a frustrated steaming act that maybe is not fooling him. I just keep playing $50 on each hand for the necrotic several rounds and keep winning. When count returned to Zero, I had recovered my money betting two hands of $50.

However, I could not help wondering how I could have bet and won so much more if I had not gone so concerned about getting thrown out. However, the pit was standing there watching from the start, watching me lose the first few rounds as small cards kept coming out. Maybe he was counting all along and my staying at 2 x $50 was what allowed me to get away.

I sure wish I could be more sure about my boundaries.

Zee
I’m sure we will get to you in due course. My comments were directed to the petzel who thinks his shit doesn’t stink. Of course, I’m referring to his majesty, King CountingisFun.

The twerp, previous name unknown at this point, will grace us with his superior renditions on how to beat a shoe game. Of course, he is further graced with the opportunity of studying up on the relationships between rules, deck pen and spread.

[Midwest Player]

I just recently came back from a blackjack trip. Finally a win. It was nothing to brag about, but it was good enough to wipe out my last losing trip by $47. I now have over 100 hours playing time for the year. I doubt if I will make the 200 hour mark this year. In the past, I always got in over 200 hours of playing time in a year even when I had a full time job.

[Counting_Is_Fun]

In Las Vegas, at 6deck, on a slow midweek, midday, how long are you going to last spreading from $15 to $200 or at DD from $25 to $200? What do you think are the limits that you can get away with for a two hour session?

Well it depends of course. We were discussing 6D...in Vegas, midweek, midday at 1-12...on the strip or? Not very long.
And for DD 1-8...on the strip or? On the strip I would say it depends which casino...but not very long either.