Hi,
It is online game and the rules :-
1) 8 deck, S17, Penetration = 50%
2) DOA, NoDAS, No Surrender
3) SPL1, American Rules but ONLY check if upcard is Ace
4) Bet size : min 10, max 100
The House edge = 0.71%
My question : Is it possible to reduce the house edge to 0.5%(or lower) if use perfect counting system and betting size ?
Anyone can help ?
I can get 0.6% rebate for the total betting amount.
James
Last edited by James989; 09-03-2019 at 12:52 AM.
Contradiction in terms.
Assuming your numbers are accurate, house edge is .71, which is reduced by .6 betting rebate on the entire betting amount.
So, .71 reduced by .6 equals .11.
By the way, if you win, do you still get a rebate. I ask, because that’s the way you structured your question,
Originally Posted by Freightman
Meaning still losing 0.11% if NO counting ! If I can vary the bet size according to the TC, then I may reduce HE to say 0.4%, I can have net +0.2%( 0.6-0.4) !
My question : with counting and vary the bet size, is it possible to reduce HE to 0.5%( or even lower to 0.4) BEFORE take rebate into consideration ?
Last edited by James989; 09-03-2019 at 12:53 AM.
You’re asking the wrong question again, but if you ask the right question, the one you intended to ask, then the answer is no because - house edge is what it is.
However, the question that you really really meant to ask, which is - can i overcome the house edge by .41 or .31, with the further proviso of limiting spread 1-10, further limited to 50% pen, without taking rebate into consideration, the answer that I present to you, without benefit of simulation is .................no.
However, if I’m wrong, and if that means no is maybe, then have fun on the variance roller coaster. Mind you, it might be advantageous to contact the online provider, ask them to relax rules and improve deck pen, then the problem is solved.
James989,
A quick CVData sim (of the game itself without the rebate) using HiLo for heads-up play shows an IBA of +0.043% by betting $10 @ 0 & below and $100 @ +1 & above (nearly 20% of the rounds). However, even with a BR of $250,000 your RoR is still 10.6%. Your average bet is $27.36, with an hourly (assuming 100 rounds/hour) SD of $511.32, WR of $1.17, and total action (including splits and DDs) of $2736.
Of course, none of this accounts for your rebate, nor for the possibility of "perfect play", so YMMV ;-)
Hope this helps!
Dog Hand
I would not bother man. Those online casinos can keep your money for any reason. I think they even state in their terms that if youre caught counting for APing they can keep your money.
Plus, whether they even offer a fair game is questionable...
Wouldnt touch this!
I was too subtle before, so maybe this post will be more helpful.
Get it through your head that you can’t change house edge. It’s an off the top calculation, which takes into account the number of decks in play as well as various rules that both add and detract from to the overall house edge.
Then, to overcome that house edge, you need bet spread. Your frequency of profitable bets is reduced significantly by shitty deck pen. You ignored everyone’s comments regarding almost everything, even Dog hand who suggested a betting scheme within the parameters of your OP, which suggested a high ROR in a huge bankroll.
On an inquisitive note, why do you want to beat your head in on a shitty online game, suggested within this thread of potential dishonesty and theft by the house, when it is so much easier to beat a brick and mortar house with far less risk?
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