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    European Casinos not using CSM

    Hey.. I'm from Switzerland and I wonder, if there are still casinos in Europe, which offer Blackjack without the shuffle machines (CSM).

    Do some people here know, which are the european casinos without CSM?

    Or does exist a list with these casinos?

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    Seems very tough to find one. I have never seen a dealer shoe in any casino in Europe, but not tried out very many casinos. Besides, the rules like ENHC are very unattractive, so I have given up the hope to ever decently play the game in Europe.

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    I hope there is someone, who know some casinos without CSM.... Ok.. right.. in europe they use the unattractive ENHC .... but in the other hand, most of them offer the more attractive S17 rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grobbelaar View Post
    Hey.. I'm from Switzerland and I wonder, if there are still casinos in Europe, which offer Blackjack without the shuffle machines (CSM).

    Do some people here know, which are the european casinos without CSM?

    Or does exist a list with these casinos?
    I'm sure It does.

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    Switzerland is all csm, there are shoe games in Europe but hard to find..

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    Switzerland is a rip-off, in blackjack as well as in general. Prices are way too high and quality does not justify them.

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    If all casinos in Switzerland do use CSM is just what I want to find out... how do you know, that in switzerland all casinos use CSM? Are you also from Switzerland?

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    Lack of better, a list with CSM

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    What's the story with Lugano?

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    Check montenegro casinos run by merit. You may find non-csm bj tables there.

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    There are many shoe games in Europe that are beatable. I know of atleast 1 city that routinely has $5 minimums. You need to look harder, and look east.


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    The last time i was in a Genting casino in Edinburgh, shuffle machines were downstairs, I told the floor manager i wouldn't play with those, he informed me there was a shoe table upstairs, when i foud it I asked what the table rules were the pit boss said "what rules would you like?'
    think i fainted after that

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    Is that the outlet in York Place? I visit there on the odd occasion that I visit Edinburgh for work purposes, although I've never seen a blackjack table on the upper floor where the bar is. If I recall, downstairs there are two blackjack tables, both sporting a dyson.
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