Greedy Bastards in Wendover

[Midwest Player]

Here is what happened in Wendover the last time they changed the blackjack rules.

June 2019 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the good rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...cumentid=14840

June 2013 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the bad rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=8037

Notice under the bad rules the win percent is a little higher, but total revenue is less than under the good rules. Oh when will they ever learn.

I suggest folks still away for awhile and maybe they will change the rules back again. On the other hand, maybe it will be less crowded and less sweaty. I ran a sim with the new rules vs the old rules spreading 1 to 6 in green and the difference was about $8 an hour.

[ZeeBabar]

Here is what happened in Wendover the last time they changed the blackjack rules.

June 2019 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the good rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...cumentid=14840

June 2013 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the bad rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=8037

Notice under the bad rules the win percent is a little higher, but total revenue is less than under the good rules. Oh when will they ever learn.

I suggest folks still away for awhile and maybe they will change the rules back again. On the other hand, maybe it will be less crowded and less sweaty. I ran a sim with the new rules vs the old rules spreading 1 to 6 in green and the difference was about $8 an hour.

Never been to Wendover, just curious, you can spread 1-6 on SD games without threat of back offs.

[Midwest Player]

Never been to Wendover, just curious, you can spread 1-6 on SD games without threat of back offs.

I'm still good, and I have been going there for about 12 years now. You can easily spread 1 to 6 in red. I go as much as 1 to 8 in red. My starting in red is usually $15 and will drop to as low as $10 and as high as $80. If playing green I'm a little more conservative, usually 1 to 5 and sometimes 1 to 6 and a few times will put out that $200 in green.

Zee, you should check it out. Delta has a non stop flight to SLC from where you are for $227. Rent a car and drive the 120 miles to Wendover. Heck, if I had a car I would also make the 125 mile drive up to Jackpot and check them out. However, I should add I never played in Jackpot, but it would be a good backup choice if you get backed off in Wendover.

[ZeeBabar]

I'm still good, and I have been going there for about 12 years now. You can easily spread 1 to 6 in red. I go as much as 1 to 8 in red. My starting in red is usually $15 and will drop to as low as $10 and as high as $80. If playing green I'm a little more conservative, usually 1 to 5 and sometimes 1 to 6 and a few times will put out that $200 in green.

Zee, you should check it out. Delta has a non stop flight to SLC from where you are for $227. Rent a car and drive the 120 miles to Wendover. Heck, if I had a car I would also make the 125 mile drive up to Jackpot and check them out. However, I should add I never played in Jackpot, but it would be a good backup choice if you get backed off in Wendover.

Where is Jackpot? What state?

Trip report for that other trip be out soon.

On on another note, on road trips, can you really hit some of those casinos on weekdays? Would there not be too few people and tables and thus too much heat, say a Monday at Noon?

After a devastating couple of months where I could not string together 2 win sessions, I finally won 3 short sessions in a row, about $800 win total. Interesting how quickly confidence returns after almost quitting!

[refinery]

Where is Jackpot? What state

It's like you don't have the internet. Take two seconds to do your own research.

[Midwest Player]

Where is Jackpot? What state?

Trip report for that other trip be out soon.

On on another note, on road trips, can you really hit some of those casinos on weekdays? Would there not be too few people and tables and thus too much heat, say a Monday at Noon?

After a devastating couple of months where I could not string together 2 win sessions, I finally won 3 short sessions in a row, about $800 win total. Interesting how quickly confidence returns after almost quitting!

Zee, Jackpot is in Neveda 125 miles northwest of Wendover. It is on the border of Nevada and Idaho. I think most of the folks that come to play at Jackpot are from Twin Falls, Idaho. Jackpot like Wendover is very small. I hope you didn't think I was talking about Jackpot Junction which is a casino in MN.

[21forme]

Where is the internet?

[RS]

Where is the internet?

Download it here (click).


For real though, I don't think it's fair to compare 2013 and 2019. What do the numbers look like for other years?

[Midwest Player]

For real though, I don't think it's fair to compare 2013 and 2019. What do the numbers look like for other years?

I think the biggest impact on the revenue numbers was probably the great recession of 2008. So in the years right after 2008 we slowly came out of the recession. The recession probably had a bigger impact than any rule change. However, he is another comparison with 2007 right before the recession and with the bad rules in 2013.

June 2007 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the good rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=3877

June 2013 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the bad rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=8037

[refinery]

I think the biggest impact on the revenue numbers was probably the great recession of 2008. So in the years right after 2008 we slowly came out of the recession. The recession probably had a bigger impact than any rule change. However, he is another comparison with 2007 right before the recession and with the bad rules in 2013.

June 2007 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the good rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=3877

June 2013 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the bad rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=8037

You're making me crazy. Why aren't you doing quarter on quarter? Why 5 years apart?

[RS]

I think the biggest impact on the revenue numbers was probably the great recession of 2008. So in the years right after 2008 we slowly came out of the recession. The recession probably had a bigger impact than any rule change. However, he is another comparison with 2007 right before the recession and with the bad rules in 2013.

June 2007 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the good rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=3877

June 2013 Revenue in Wendover. Go to page 26. This is the bad rules.
https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...ocumentid=8037

Can you just post the numbers for every year between 2013 and 2019, or whatever the hell the timeline indicates? Look at the trend, not just two points that are 5+ years apart.

[Midwest Player]

Can you just post the numbers for every year between 2013 and 2019, or whatever the hell the timeline indicates? Look at the trend, not just two points that are 5+ years apart.

I could, but I'm not going to do all that work. I suggest you or the "refinery' analyze the information and post your findings. Since the refinery is going crazy over this maybe he could do something worth while for a change instead of just criticize others. Here is where I got the information from.
https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=149

I'm not quite sure when the rule change to bad rules started or ended, and even then there will be a time lag between the start and the ending. By this I mean as soon as the bad rules start revenue will go up for awhile because folks are not aware of the rule change and if they travel all the way from Salt Lake City they will probably play once they are there. On the other end, once the bad rules end a lot of folks may not know about the change for awhile.

However, like I said before I believe the biggest impact on the revenue numbers was the recession of 2008 and not the rule change.

[refinery]

I could, but I'm not going to do all that work. I suggest you or the "refinery' analyze the information and post your findings. Since the refinery is going crazy over this maybe he could do something worth while for a change instead of just criticize others. Here is where I got the information from.
https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=149

I'm not quite sure when the rule change to bad rules started or ended, and even then there will be a time lag between the start and the ending. By this I mean as soon as the bad rules start revenue will go up for awhile because folks are not aware of the rule change and if they travel all the way from Salt Lake City they will probably play once they are there. On the other end, once the bad rules end a lot of folks may not know about the change for awhile.

However, like I said before I believe the biggest impact on the revenue numbers was the recession of 2008 and not the rule change.

No thanks, you 40 year red chipping fool!