Down Under Blackjack

[Midwest Player]

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I will add my silky soft feet; and give it four thumbs down.
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I don't think it is as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It is kind of a modified version of double exposure, and double exposure is a very beatable game. In double exposure dealer takes all ties. In this game on a dealer 22 everyone remaining pushes. House edge is 0.57 on this game while a 6 deck h17, das, rsa, game house edge is 0.56. The big advantage in this game is on doubling. With your 11 or 10 you wouldn't double down if you know the dealer has a high hole card with a 7 thru ace. I'm also guessing game variance will be lower on this game than regular blackjack.

Years ago my local casino offered double exposure for awhile. I learned the basic strategy for this game as presented in Professional Blackjack and did quite well on it. In fact, for a while my biggest win record was on double exposure. I do remember one guy refusing to hit his 20 against the dealer 20 saying he was only going to break anyway and to just take his money. What an idiot.

I do think the casinos are making money hand over fist on this game as most folks don't know how to play it. It would take some effort to memorize basic strategy for this game, but if you have this game available nearby it might be worthwhile to learn it.

It would be nice if someone could sim this game to see how good it actually is.

[RCJH]

I don't think it is as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It is kind of a modified version of double exposure, and double exposure is a very beatable game. In double exposure dealer takes all ties. In this game on a dealer 22 everyone remaining pushes. House edge is 0.57 on this game while a 6 deck h17, das, rsa, game house edge is 0.56. The big advantage in this game is on doubling. With your 11 or 10 you wouldn't double down if you know the dealer has a high hole card with a 7 thru ace. I'm also guessing game variance will be lower on this game than regular blackjack.

Years ago my local casino offered double exposure for awhile. I learned the basic strategy for this game as presented in Professional Blackjack and did quite well on it. In fact, for a while my biggest win record was on double exposure. I do remember one guy refusing to hit his 20 against the dealer 20 saying he was only going to break anyway and to just take his money. What an idiot.

I do think the casinos are making money hand over fist on this game as most folks don't know how to play it. It would take some effort to memorize basic strategy for this game, but if you have this game available nearby it might be worthwhile to learn it.

It would be nice if someone could sim this game to see how good it actually is.

First, the HE for double exposure is AT LEAST a .67, due to the dealer wins all pushes rule. Other rules can add to that, such as double restrictions, etc.

Second, I'm not sure the guy not hitting a 20 was an idiot. If you're in a high count situation, you're either going to bust or remove an ace. Now if the next card is a 5, you put yourself in a better situation for the next round. But if it's a 10 you just took a valuable card out of play.

Lastly, I tried to sim it but couldn't figure out how to impose the rule that the player hits until they (presumably) beat the dealer. For example, I couldn't make the computer hit a 17 if the dealer had a 20.

[Midwest Player]

First, the HE for double exposure is AT LEAST a .67, due to the dealer wins all pushes rule. Other rules can add to that, such as double restrictions, etc.

I don't think the house edge is that high. Professional Blackjack mentions 0.60% for an h17 game, but like you say other rules could increase or decrease that edge. However, each count per deck is worth 0.7% at double exposure compared to only 0.5% at regular blackjack.

Maybe Dog Hand could figure out how to sim this game or anyone else who is good at programing.

[aceside]

It would be nice if someone could sim this game to see how good it actually is.

I give this game a two thumbs up. However, one thing bothers me. The Wizard of Odds only calculated the Hit-17 game, but I want both the Hit-17 and Stand-17 versions. Can anybody help calculate it?