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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Yes.
    And how exactly do the casino conditions differ from my kitchen table?

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    Good grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Good grief.
    I take it that you cannot answer since the best you could come up with is good grief. I am sorry that the thread carries kinda saucy undertone from my side, it is not my intention, but I think that this needs to be clarified though. So please try to answer the question. Instead of treating me like a hopeless idiot with your good grief, it's very ignorant you know!

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    Playing at your kitchen table and in a casino are similar. Sometimes you will win and sometimes you will lose. This, in no way, "proves" anything other than your method of play worked for that particular, insignificant, set of events.

    That's my last word in this thread. Perhaps someone with more patience, and who is in the mood to be called ignorant, will help.
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    Pretend you have a six-sided die in a box. The box is shaped so that when you look inside, you can only see the top face of the die. Each face of the die is coloured, but you don't know how many faces of each colour there are.

    Suppose you are going to make a bet with your friend about the outcome of a single roll of the die. Before making the bet, you are allowed unlimited prep time, during which you can play with the die in the box, but not remove it from the box.

    What do you do?

    Answer: when you bet with your friend, the die will only be rolled one time. Therefore, in order to best assess what is likely to happen in that scenario, your test should also be rolling the die only one time. You roll it once, and whatever colour you see, that is the colour you should bet your savings on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Playing at your kitchen table and in a casino are similar. Sometimes you will win and sometimes you will lose. This, in no way, "proves" anything other than your method of play worked for that particular, insignificant, set of events.

    That's my last word in this thread. Perhaps someone with more patience, and who is in the mood to be called ignorant, will help.
    Playing at my kitchen table and in casino is very similar indeed. And I definitely wouldn't call the set of events insignificant, yes compared to the simulation of billion hands it is insignificant of course. When I will be going to casinos with real money the sets of events will be much closer to the insignificant sets of events at my kitchen table than in the billion hands.

    As for calling you ignorant I apologize but remember you implied that I was an idiot first!! Simple law of action and reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    You cannot play enough hands to KNOW what works. All you get is variance.
    I played about 378 hands per session in a 6D shoe, in a week that would be around 2646 hands, why would that be not enough to have a positive result, let's say I'll do the same the week after and have a different result then I can average it out. What's wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    To clarify: your results are STATISTICALLY insignificant.
    If you are like the majority of people today, you are a 'statistical-illiterate' - just like 300 years ago when the majority couldn't read or write - most people are clueless about statistical logic, so they over-emphasize the observed sampling. So you are not expected to understand, but if you want to understand you've come to the right place.
    Yes thank you for welcoming me here , I don't necessary need a perfect statistic but I want money, I think that a lot of people get carried away in statistics and forget about the main concept money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Nothing ... as long as you play about 50m sessions.
    I'm not sure what 50m means if it's minutes or million, I take it as a million. Well what's the point when a professional blackjack player will never reach such number even by far, so what's the point exactly?

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