I just brought this conversation up because I have been practicing vigorously. My mother asked me what I am doing. I am practicing the KO count and explained it. She said why don’t you just count only the high cards and with that knowledge you will know the percent left in the shoe as long as you know how many cards were dealt. Looking at the discard rack to accomplish this is easy enough.

I told her I will post it up and see if it is viable because in a way it could give you an idea if you have the advantage or not.

4 decks in and you have counted 120 high cards you now know their are obviously many more small cards then big left over. Dropping your edge even more.

I don’t think it is perfect, just brain storming.

Thank you all for the feedback.