Team play

**stopgambling** · 03-26-2019, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by DSchles

That is not the case actually, but not for the reason you quote. With the joint bank that is ten times the size of the individual's bank, each player on the team plays as if he/she owns the entire joint bank and plays for ten times as much as he/she would ordinarily wager. It doesn't matter that the win is now "chopped" ten ways, because the gross win is now 100 times what it was compared to the individual's solo play. So, the end result is that each player on the team wins ten times as much as he/she would win playing alone, even after the ten-way split.

i understand that DON . i am just guessing with the inefficiency of the transfer of money their combined Ev may not be 10x as effective as a single player . There would be downtime waiting for money since each player is not really holding onto 100k . I would assume each player would need to have at least 20k as session bankroll which leaves other team mates not having the funds .

**Stealth** · 03-26-2019, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

i understand that DON . i am just guessing with the inefficiency of the transfer of money their combined Ev may not be 10x as effective as a single player . There would be downtime waiting for money since each player is not really holding onto 100k . I would assume each player would need to have at least 20k as session bankroll which leaves other team mates not having the funds .

Not true, consider each member invested 20K but is left with 10K as an individual bankroll to play at team risk stakes. The remaining team bank is held be team manager who has the resposibility for moving money between players as needed.

The amounts stated are for example and can be more accurate with proper planning.

**spitz** · 03-26-2019, 12:39 PM

Just use your own bankroll and find a couple people willing to be your spotter and pay them hourly. It's not that hard to find people that are competent enough to play BS with minimum bet. Do a bit of networking and find out who is a bit desperate for money. Most people will do anything when it comes to guaranteed $$$.

**Buckster** · 03-26-2019, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by spitz

Just use your own bankroll and find a couple people willing to be your spotter and pay them hourly. It's not that hard to find people that are competent enough to play BS with minimum bet. Do a bit of networking and find out who is a bit desperate for money. Most people will do anything when it comes to guaranteed $$$.

I think a lot of the value of team play is the compounding effect of combining bankrolls. If you do it this way you lose that benefit.

**stopgambling** · 03-26-2019, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Stealth

The remaining team bank is held be team manager who has the resposibility for moving money between players as needed.

i am just thinking there's gonna be some inefficiency somewhere and theory is always sound better than practice. i am not arguing with people that know a lot about this. i am just stating my thoughts and saying don't be overly optimistic.

**Stealth** · 03-26-2019, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

i am just thinking there's gonna be some inefficiency somewhere and theory is always sound better than practice. i am not arguing with people that know a lot about this. i am just stating my thoughts and saying don't be overly optimistic.

What inefficiency are you referring to?

I am experienced and I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

**spitz** · 03-26-2019, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Buckster

I think a lot of the value of team play is the compounding effect of combining bankrolls. If you do it this way you lose that benefit.

Of course it is. Bigger bankroll = bigger spreads. He was stating that he doesn't know any card counters so that already puts the idea of others with a bankroll out of the question. I was saying just find a couple spotters to spot for you so you can have the team experience with being able to put a bigger spread on the table without drawing heat too quickly. Yes, you're losing EV by paying for spotters by the hour, but I think if you put in the effort to train some spotters, it's definitely worth it to be able to spread more and have more longevity at some of the casinos that you live close too.

RS · 03-27-2019, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

i am just thinking there's gonna be some inefficiency somewhere and theory is always sound better than practice. i am not arguing with people that know a lot about this. i am just stating my thoughts and saying don't be overly optimistic.

Yes and no. I would say, at the lowest levels, it helps linearly, as in -- if you have 2x the bankroll, then you'll make 2x the EV. Higher up, the gain can be better than that, because you may now have access to better games due to higher limits (green chip tables as opposed to red chip tables.......less crowding/faster game as well as better rules). Then when you go even higher, the gain may not be as much because you start to get limited on either table maximums or heat. Regardless, if you don't increase your bets but still chop with someone, then you'll be able to smooth out the variance.