So, I play DD heads up. Before i sit at the table, I always ask the dealer "how is the table" and if the dealer says "it is very bad" or "it is good" i will always keep a record. And my data shows that when the dealer tells me table is very bad, i will lose more than 50% of the time. How is this possible? I am still winning in the long run. But is this really just coincidence? I don't want to be one of those voodo players. But it is hard to ignore.
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But I took more of a mathematical approach by actually collecting data and the results speak for themselves. I am not saying anything... But the results speak for themselves. Over 16 months of sessions.Originally Posted by 21forme
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Really? First, you don't have enough data to make any determination about anything.
What happens when they put in new cards and dealer has said it was good. Is it still good or do you need to ask again?
Absurd........
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
Unfortunately this is not the proof. Even 1,000 people or more record the similar data, it is still not a proof. So this belongs to Voodoo forum.
We need an insider steal a rigged shuffled machine and send it to the law enforcement. But if I were the manufacture, I would program ASM to get off beast mode once it cannot ping manufacture online. So this theory can never be proved.
""It's the dealer telling you when the ASM is running in beast mode."" I have obviously missed many a conversation about this "BEAST". Please explain and/or reference pertinent threads. I've heard suspicions about the programming of ASM'S and seen the allegations in the Voodoo thread but I figured it was incorrect. Please advise Zeebar....thanks.
It is voodoo.
For the the sake of a pointless argument, assume that there IS a beast mode, programmed so that the dealer gets all the high cards and you get a stiff. What happens when someone joins the table? They mess it up, of course.
What if you cut it so that YOU get all the high cards, and the dealer gets stiffs? I bet the casino didn't think of that!
Zee, the above poster is a relatively new counter. This is just piss poor advice. Shame on you.
I concur. I have friendly dealers tell me the same thing to warn me that the table was running the beast mode. The dealers have seen for hours that no one won. Normally I would see there are already other counters sitting at this table. If I insist on playing, then I will see counters and Basic Strategy players are all losing as cards come out in clumps. The only exception is that some ploppies that don't play by the book may win.
I have to add one point. If I go to casinos to play hand shuffled BJ, I have good shoes and bad shoes in fair mix and I see people who won and people who lose, also in fair mix. One thing stands out is that people who play perfect BS, they will have better results than ploppies. If I go to play ASM BJ, on bad nights, 90% of people who count cards or play perfect BS, all lose, and one or two winners are ploppes who don't play by book. This has been going on for at least six years and getting worse in the last two years. It alerts me. I would say from 1990's up to 2012, I feel no different playing hand-shuffled and ASM. But since shuffling machines that can put back decks back to the fresh new sequence are introduced, I sense the cards coming out don't correlate to True Count like they used to be. I usually play at $25 minimal hand shuffled table. Sometimes after a big win, I would go to play $10 minimal ASM table and don't alter my index play at all to see what would happen. The results are almost always terrible so I did this less and less. And now I almost concluded that I should not touch ASM BJ again.
wow, and to think I've been wasting my time counting when I could have just asked the dealer how the table is going.. OP This is revolutionary stuff I dont think you should be sharing on open forums, publish a book with your mathematical data findings and rake in the $$$
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