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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Suggestion: with your mathematical knowledge and the money you've made from playing the game, don't you think you might be able to afford to go to the casino with more than $1,000 in your pocket and play properly? Just sayin'.

    Don
    I could go with more than $1,000 but I play for fun and to make a little money. I play bj so I can play the the Lucky Ladies. I get them maybe twice a year and they pay 200 to 1 and I usually have $15 on them when I play so I get $3,000. And the LL bet has a big edge but the large payouts also means big variance. That is why I start increasing my LL bet to only $10 on as many hands as possible when LLc > 30 for six decks and increase my LL bet over $10 if I am winning and LLc > 30. And remember that is a day trip bankroll. If I lost it, so what, I come back the next day with another $1,000. But the way I play and the $1,000 is only for a day trip I hardly ever lost my $1,000.

    Also because we are basically playing bj to play the LL and we are flat betting and playing only when we have a large edge. we usually only keep the KO and AA89mTc. I do not usually keep the 5m7c as we are not spreading our bets and we are playing bj to play the large edges you get on the LL bet. If Blazing 7's is offered so I do add the 5m7c to the KO with AA89mTc. But otherwise I usually do not even use the 5m7c. But when I do use 5m7c then I call over Carla when either brc = betting running count = KO + (1/2)*(5m7c) >= 24 or LLc = KO + AA89mTc >= 24 for the six deck game.

    I am at the casino for maybe 4 or 5 hours and most of the time Carla and I are back counting tables. We only play when there are several table available and open spots to jump in. We jump in and call each other over when either KO >= 24 or LLc = KO + AA89mTc >= 24. So when LLc >= 30 then the LL bet is approximately equal to our blackjack bet and the LL edge is large so the average edge of LL and bj is also very large. LL bets are essentially independent of bj bets so we play as many hands as possible. (Someone pointed out that if dealer has bj and you have QHQH you get $1,000 to 1 so LL is not totally independent of blackjack bets but close enough and if you get 1000 to 1 who cares if you lose your bj hand! But in playing LL for over 5 years I have gotten QHQH many times but I have never gotten QHQH with dealer bj).

    Just as a disclaimer. I have never played DD games and in the shoe game the most I bet is $25 on bj - usually only $15 and of course I play the LL. So I have no practical experience to back up my analysis of large bets and bet spreads.

    I am interested if someone actually uses the information I posted on KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c and if they can then write back their own experiences.

    Anyhow I hope that the information I have posted others find useful.
    Last edited by bjanalyst; 02-07-2019 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    I am interested if someone actually uses the information I posted on KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c
    No one is using this information. Guaranteed.

    For the love of god, lock this thread.

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    I'm a bit late to the game here and refuse to subject my mind to 59 pages worth of .... stuff. Is this a new system being introduced or just some PR to generate interest in Mr. BJAnalyst's books on Amazon?

    Edit: apparently my autocorrect has a dirty mind.
    Last edited by Zaal; 02-07-2019 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    No one is using this information. Guaranteed.
    You really need to speak only for yourself, not for others. You are not using this information does not mean that others are not or will not use this information.

    Let's see if someone does use it. You are speaking for others without knowing what others think. Give others a chance to reply. But as you know simulations are really what counts, not individual short sessions and feed back from players.

    Obviously other players are interested and so I reply to other's questions. I am being polite and answering others questions who are interested. I am not rambling on and on independent of anyone asking me questions and I am not making unsolicited posts.

    BJ players should have choices. If they want to keep using HO2 with ASC or even keeping using the HL with non side counts then that if fine. I am not forcing anyone to use what I have posted. But to censor information and not give players a choice is not right either.

    Furthermore, since simulations have not been done on KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c then it could very well be true that my prediction that it will beat the HO2 with ASC is true. All of my other predictions on HL with AA78mTc and 5m6c came true so I am confident that my prediction that KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c will most likely beat HO2 with ASC for no LS game and will definitely beat HO2 with ASC for LS game is true.

    I was told that for decades bj experts have been trying to devise a bj system that beats that HO2 with ASC and no one has succeeded. If KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c does beat HO2 with ASC then I think that bj players would be interested. Another reason why players are still interested.
    Last edited by bjanalyst; 02-07-2019 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaal View Post
    I'm a bit late to the game here and refuse to subject my mind to 59 pages worth of .... stuff. Is this a new system being introduced or just some PR to generate interest in Mr. BJAnalyst's books on Amazon?
    First I told anyone who is interested in my book NOT to buy it from Amazon. Amazon is too expensive and you do not need a hard copy.

    Buy the online PDF version for $3.99 from www.xlibris.com
    https://www.xlibris.com/Bookstore/Bo...arch=bjanalyst

    So no, I am not out to pedal my book and make a lot of money. If you spent $3.99 for the online PDF book I am supposed to get $2 from it - actually I am having problems getting any royalties at all from Xlibris and I also found online reviews from others who also are having problems with Xlbiris paying royalties. So if you think I am pedaling my book to make some fortune you are wrong. Also I am not pedaling useless or false information.

    Of the many complaints that I have had, not ONE person has shown that I made a single mistake.

    I asked for constructive criticism and I asked that any errors that I may have made be point out. Instead of constructive feedback, I get negative feedback from mentally challenged crybabies who have problems multiply and adding small integers.

    My calculations are correct and no one has pointed out or found any errors in my analysis, period!

    And I also stick by my prediction which is KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c will most likely beat HO2 with ASC for the S17, DAS, no LS game and will definitely beat HO2 with ASC for the S17, DAS, LS game.

    So again, I am not pedaling garbage and I am not trying to force my book on anyone nor am I trying to make a "killing" unless you call $2 a killing which I am not even getting from Xlibris anyhow.
    Last edited by bjanalyst; 02-07-2019 at 12:32 PM.

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    What I want to know is what were your playing results for 2018 using this system. Did you have a winning year? How much did you win and Carla win per hour? Did you win on over half the times you played?

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    Bjanalyst, at this stage of the game, I’m more interested in knowing what’s going on with your relationship with Carla. Is it moving forward?

    Personally, I think you two make a good team if you enjoy doing this type of thing together. Back counting and then spreading to multiple hands trying to hit Lucky Lady sounds like an interesting way to spend time together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    You really need to speak only for yourself, not for others.
    Tell me more about how Gronbog simmed "the HiLo" because it was a canned sim, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    I am not rambling on and on independent of anyone asking me questions and I am not making unsolicited posts.
    More false claims by you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    Of the many complaints that I have had, not ONE person has shown that I made a single mistake.
    You underestimated the importance of betting in a shoe game, and completely misunderstood correlation coefficients. But no, no mistakes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    You underestimated the importance of betting in a shoe game, and completely misunderstood correlation coefficients. But no, no mistakes...
    I knew betting was very important in the shoe game. Sanford Wong said that betting is the most important for the shoe game.. In my second book, KO with 45m79c I wrote that book superficially in mind to maximize the betting. KO + (1/2)*(45m79c) give S17, DAS, LS betting correlation of 99.6%. But the 45m79c is too difficult to keep if you are also keeping the AA89mTc. Thus I decided to simplify to the 5m7c to use with KO with AA89mTc. There is a slight decrease in BC for S17, DAS, LS game from 99.6% to 99.0% when 5m7c is used instead of 45m79c and there is a slight decreasing in playing efficiency also but the loss is not that significant considering the simplicity of 5m7c and the less changes of errors and less exhaustion by using 5m7c instead of 45m79c

    So I knew that betting was most important for the shoe game. But I did not know quantify how important it was I was thrown off track and choose to have Gronbgg simulate adding 5m6c to HL with AA78mTc which helped with hard 16 v T but did not make up for the great decrease in betting efficiency. I never suggested using 5m6c in any of my books. In HL with plus minus side counts I had suggested adding 5m9c to HL with AA78mTc. The 5m6c was just a test that I made and not a mistake. I tested many, many different counts to fine the best.

    But as I said I have always liked the KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c. You can see by the name of my second book KO with 45m79c and my third book KO with 45m79c and AA89mTc. That has always been my choice so I did not make any mistakes. But of course, I switch 5m7c instead of 45m79c for simplicity.

    Also even though I did not exactly how sensitive the SCORE was to BC I still did not make any mistake in my calculations which is what I am talking about. I calculated the changes to HL with AA78mTc and 5m6c correctly as each new set of changes I gave to Gronbog increased the SCORE. So my indices and values of k1 and k2 were correct.

    So there were no computational errors. There was just the fact that I did not know exactly how sensitive the SCORE was for the shoe game to slight changes in the Betting Correlation.

    My fourth book is called High Low with Plus Minus side counts because many players stick with the HL as their count. That is why I wrote the 4th book. But I included analogous KO and KO side counts in each chapter right next to the HL and its side counts. But I do recommend HL for the DD game where playing efficiency is more important and a play all game with true counts all over the place really need a balanced count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    Tell me more about how Gronbog simmed "the HiLo" because it was a canned sim, please.
    I do not know how to simulate programs or how simulate programs work. I will give you my interpretation. I may be wrong and Gronbog is the better person to answer your question on sim programs.

    But I will tell you what I did discuss with Gronbog. Gronbog agreed to do the HL sim because it was easiest to do and he did not have a KO base program ready to modify for my sims. if he was to test the KO system he would first have had to make a base KO sim program. So we used the HL sim programs as a proxy to see if my techniques and values of indices and k1 and k2 for HL with AA78mTc and 5m6c that I calculated with the LSL worked and they did as the SCORE increased each time I gave Gronbog new inputs..

    So what we agreed to do was get a HL sim program that he knew worked and make as few changes as possible to minimize the chance for any errors. We agreed to leave everything in the HL program as is and just make the few changes I suggested. So, for example, the first sim added AA78mTc with insurance and hard 12 v 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, Gronbog changed just the indices and values of k in HL + k*(AA78mTc) for just these six situations and left everything else, including betting, with the HL indices.

    That is how I understand how Gronbog did his sims. If you want to know more or if I made a mistake in what I said you have to ask Gronbog.

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    I am not rambling on and on independent of anyone asking me questions and I am not making unsolicited posts.
    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    More false claims by you!
    I am replying to yoru posts, aren't I? Case proven.

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