Is ASM rigged?

[ferenc11]

The trouble with conspiracy theories is too many people have to keep their mouths shut for them to be valid. Have any casino staff started dying mysteriously or in high frequency? That is how a conspiracy is kept quiet. If too many people know about it there is always someone that will leak the info. Dead men tell no tales.

Couldn't agree more...+1

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[Yfhuang81]

If a casino suspected someone of being an AP, why would they result to cheating through programming an ASM? Why not just kick them out them out like they’ve been doing for 50 years? What you’re saying defies common sense.

Why would any casinos spend the time and money to do this? It’d take time, money and could result in jail time. Quite a few people would need to be involved to pull this off. You’d have to have someone who knew how an ASM works, knew programming logic and then understood bj well enough to know how to program the shuffle to get an advantage against an AP. That person/persons would know he’s doing something against the law and be willing to take the risk and go to jail if caught. Common sense tells you this would never happen.

The casino will be happier if they can win all the AP’s money and letting them leave quietly in long face.

[Ldubz274]

I actually work in a casino as a dealer... I know for a fact ASM can read cards. One time a card fell on the ground and nobody noticed. I loaded the 6 decks into the ASM and it started to shuffle. 1 minute later the red light came on and it said "missing 8 of diamonds" we have established it can read cards. Now on to the next part. The ASM for single deck carnival games like three card poker can actually sort cards. After the table closes we switch it to sorting mode and have it sort the cards in order from A-K to be packaged and hole punched and given to customers. Also when a straight flush is hit, the manager will go to the machine to check if it was actually dealt. Now, back to blackjack ASM. As far as i know, it cannot sort cards, as we always have to do it by ourselves when the table closes. But it is able to read them. So that already is evidence to show that it could be possible..

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I actually work in a casino as a dealer... I know for a fact ASM can read cards. One time a card fell on the ground and nobody noticed. I loaded the 6 decks into the ASM and it started to shuffle. 1 minute later the red light came on and it said "missing 8 of diamonds" we have established it can read cards. Now on to the next part. The ASM for single deck carnival games like three card poker can actually sort cards. After the table closes we switch it to sorting mode and have it sort the cards in order from A-K to be packaged and hole punched and given to customers. Also when a straight flush is hit, the manager will go to the machine to check if it was actually dealt. Now, back to blackjack ASM. As far as i know, it cannot sort cards, as we always have to do it by ourselves when the table closes. But it is able to read them. So that already is evidence to show that it could be possible..

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Think I know who you are. If so, you need to learn some techniques in subtlety. You are too obvious. I don’t want to mention too many characteristics, but dark hair and glasses would be among them. You deal well.

[BJGenius007]

I actually work in a casino as a dealer... I know for a fact ASM can read cards. One time a card fell on the ground and nobody noticed. I loaded the 6 decks into the ASM and it started to shuffle. 1 minute later the red light came on and it said "missing 8 of diamonds" we have established it can read cards. Now on to the next part. The ASM for single deck carnival games like three card poker can actually sort cards. After the table closes we switch it to sorting mode and have it sort the cards in order from A-K to be packaged and hole punched and given to customers. Also when a straight flush is hit, the manager will go to the machine to check if it was actually dealt. Now, back to blackjack ASM. As far as i know, it cannot sort cards, as we always have to do it by ourselves when the table closes. But it is able to read them. So that already is evidence to show that it could be possible..

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This happened more than six months ago. So the casino should not have the tape recording pointing back to me. So I have this pit boss come to my table, ranting/telling the dealer, "Some idiot set the table side bet to PLUS THREE. No wonder it is losing money." He worked on the machine for quite a few minutes. Obviously he did not do this often. Not resetting it by unplugging the machine but just return to the root menu, then select the correct side bet to Luck Lady so the shuffler will generate the sequence suitable for LL and not paying too much to the customers. If the casino can do this to the side bet, imagine what they can do to the main game Blackjack.

[Freightman]

This happened more than six months ago. So the casino should not have the tape recording pointing back to me. So I have this pit boss come to my table, ranting/telling the dealer, "Some idiot set the table side bet to PLUS THREE. No wonder it is losing money." He worked on the machine for quite a few minutes. Obviously he did not do this often. Not resetting it by unplugging the machine but just return to the root menu, then select the correct side bet to Luck Lady so the shuffler will generate the sequence suitable for LL and not paying too much to the customers. If the casino can do this to the side bet, imagine what they can do to the main game Blackjack.

Clearly, if this happened, against the law. You can’t screw with random probability, and expect to go unscathed. You should have reported it. It would have given credence, if proven, to your conspiracy allegations.

[BJGenius007]

Clearly, if this happened, against the law. You can’t screw with random probability, and expect to go unscathed. You should have reported it. It would have given credence, if proven, to your conspiracy allegations.

I really was surprised when I overheard the conversation. These side bets have 20% or higher house advantage. I cannot imagine the casinos still want to control the sequence of the cards and pay less.

[21forme]

I really was surprised when I overheard the conversation.

Maybe they just wanted to mess with you. Wouldn't surprise me if you tell the same conspiracy stories at the tables.

[BJGenius007]

Maybe they just wanted to mess with you. Wouldn't surprise me if you tell the same conspiracy stories at the tables.

Nah. I don't visit this casino much. The pit boss doesn't know me. As I said, he frustrated in bringing up the root menu then choose the correct function to set the side bet. OK. He did not say pay customer too much. He said the side bet payout is all wrong because this is PLUS THREE table and someone set it to LUCKY LADY. He did curse whoever set the machine wrong.

[stopgambling]

He said the side bet payout is all wrong because this is PLUS THREE table and someone set it to LUCKY LADY.

it probably has to do with other functions rather than the infamous " beast" mode though.

[Ldubz274]

So I have this pit boss come to my table, ranting/telling the dealer,



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[BJGenius007]

So I have this pit boss come to my table, ranting/telling the dealer,



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When dealers paid out the side bet more than $150, he has to yell out the amount. After pay the side bet out quite a few times , the pit boss came to investigate. After checking the ASM status, he told the dealer that his predecessor set the side bet as Lucky Lady tables. The dealer was surprised like me. She said she doesn't know there is such a setting.

[Ldubz274]

It is possible the ASM is rigged. But even if it is, the pit boss wouldn't know, and they sure as hell wouldnt tell the dealers. This goes way high up. If it was spread to dealers and pit bosses then this information would already be leaked.

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