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  1. 02-25-2013, 04:40 PM #40
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    Typed with my phone . Very bad grammars
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    Halves all day.. why dont you just learn uston apc then, pick up the book million dollar blackjack by ken uston
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  3. 02-26-2013, 06:11 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Halves all day.. why dont you just learn uston apc then, pick up the book million dollar blackjack by ken uston
    UAPC is not found in Million Dollar Blackjack. Uston stuck his name on the count when it was released in the mid-80s to make it more salable. He did not use it himself. Norm characterizes it as 'far more complex than needed.' This is a bit of an understatement when one considers (a) the lack of any truly neutral cards, (b) the -3 tag on tens and (c) the ace side count without which its betting correlation is unacceptable.
    "Wait a minute. How do you beat someone to death with their own skull? That doesn't seem physically possible." "That's what Jimmy kept screaming: 'This doesn't seem physically possible!'"
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  4. 02-26-2013, 11:47 PM #43
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    UAPC is found in Million Dollar Blackjack. You might be thinking of the Uston SS, a three-level unbalanced system that sucks.
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  5. 02-27-2013, 10:40 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    It doesn't rank well with other advanced UB'd schemes?
    Norm states that its very high betting correlation led to few indices being generated. In true count mode with the full set of indices Norm generated in his physical book, it is quite powerful. Its insurance correlation does suffer somewhat from counting the nine, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Normal Form View Post
    UAPC is found in Million Dollar Blackjack. You might be thinking of the Uston SS, a three-level unbalanced system that sucks.
    As far as its origin goes, I stand corrected. However, its complexity and the fact that Uston did not use it himself are not in dispute.
    "Wait a minute. How do you beat someone to death with their own skull? That doesn't seem physically possible." "That's what Jimmy kept screaming: 'This doesn't seem physically possible!'"
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    ZenGrifter said:

    " ... a 7SC with bivaluate adjustment will add ... more than the Ace."

    I agree but I hasten to add that that is ONLY for DD and SD games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbyte View Post
    As far as its origin goes, I stand corrected. However, its complexity and the fact that Uston did not use it himself are not in dispute.
    Right, he used a hyper-complex 4-level count. But yes, my only intention was to add a small point of clarification.
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