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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    When I go on a blackjack trip, I never let myself get in a situation where I have to quit because of a shortage of funds. Since I play low stakes, depending on what the table min bet is, I might have 400 to 800 min table bets with me. And if I needed more, I would have access to a 5 figure cash amount with my credit card.
    Hmmm. That many?

    BTW, right now are we talking session BR or Trip BR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJer View Post
    Hmmm. That many?

    BTW, right now are we talking session BR or Trip BR?
    I'm talking trip bankroll for a 2 or 3 day trip. If longer trip then more, but a session for me is one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I'm talking trip bankroll for a 2 or 3 day trip. If longer trip then more, but a session for me is one day.
    Now that makes sense.
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    Well, I have stated before that I take $4500 when playing a DD session so it's 180 units. Sometimes it's $3000 so that is still over 100 units though I never really considered it.

    I do, however, sometimes walk away from a positive count (if playing rated and heat), sometimes to stick to my loss limit because I play with preserving my present (not feeling miserable that day) as well as making money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    And what is the fee to get this amount? That fee will add to the house edge.
    I surely don't recommend using a credit card at the casino to get a cash advance or even using a debit credit at the ATM. Both are expensive, but using your credit card at the casino cage cashier is the worst.

    However, what is most likely to happen for me is that I would forget to bring my bankroll and only have the money in my wallet which by its self is a fairly large amount. Instead of just leaving and heading back home, I would probably go the cash advance route. So if a person wanted a $1,000 you might have to pay the casino a 6% fee, then maybe the credit card company a 4% fee and on top of that 25% interest. I would pay the credit card off as soon as I got home so would have maybe only 3 or 4 days of interest. You get a $1,000 and your credit credit gets a hit for maybe $1,103.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I surely don't recommend using a credit card at the casino to get a cash advance or even using a debit credit at the ATM. Both are expensive, but using your credit card at the casino cage cashier is the worst.

    However, what is most likely to happen for me is that I would forget to bring my bankroll and only have the money in my wallet which by its self is a fairly large amount. Instead of just leaving and heading back home, I would probably go the cash advance route. So if a person wanted a $1,000 you might have to pay the casino a 6% fee, then maybe the credit card company a 4% fee and on top of that 25% interest. I would pay the credit card off as soon as I got home so would have maybe only 3 or 4 days of interest. You get a $1,000 and your credit credit gets a hit for maybe $1,103.
    Last, but not least a credit card at the cage, and 5hey then know who you are. Further, even using credit or debit cards at casino located atm’s can lead to your identification.

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    My trip bankroll is always 100 max bets. I usually have at least 20 max bets on me when I sit down at a table. If I'm taking a beating I'll leave (during a negative count) rather than continue playing short on funds. I'll never leave a game with a high count unless I'm completely tapped out which is pretty rare.

    I have a friend who is a fellow counter and he has the same thinking as zee. He will leave if he is getting pumped no matter how high or juicy the count. When I asked him why, his response was that he prefers to leave with his dignity. It's a concept so foreign to me in the context of blackjack but i can still respect it.

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    If you drop to a lower bet when losing it saves you a big chunk of the beating. Plus it looks like something a ploppy would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    If you drop to a lower bet when losing it saves you a big chunk of the beating. Please it looks like something a ploppy would do.
    Unless, of course, ...................................I believe you know what I’m saying.

    In fact, supported by a 2 ramp system. Somewhat vague, but...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Last, but not least a credit card at the cage, and 5hey then know who you are. Further, even using credit or debit cards at casino located atm’s can lead to your identification.
    I'm not concerned about them knowing my identity because I play rated. I also use my credit card at their hotel, but sometimes will pay with cash especially if I have a lot of excess cash.

    Years ago when I first started playing blackjack the very first Indian casino that opened in my area treated getting chips on your credit card as a purchase. This was back in the day when interest rates were high and I was actually thinking of getting a lot of chips and then at the end of the evening cashing out and then put the money in the bank for a month. I never did this as I thought the hassle out weighed the little gain. This was the case for only a short while and then they treated chips as a cash advance.

    I do remember years ago Discover Card only charged a small fee for a cash advance and no interest if paid in full each month. I think back then the ATM at the casino would only let you get a cash advance of up to $300 each day. If I remember correctly I once got $300 from the ATM right before midnight and another $300 right after midnight. Then I got home real late that night and was still sleeping when the phone rings. It was the Discover Card folks wondering if fraud was going on with my account. Damn, they couldn't even let one get a good morning's sleep.

    Soon after that Discover Card did away with such a good deal. I don't think I used an ATM in at least 20 years and I no longer even know what my pin is. If I wanted money I would have to do a cash advance at the cashier's cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Unless, of course, ...................................I believe you know what I’m saying.

    In fact, supported by a 2 ramp system. Somewhat vague, but...............
    Yes. I reworded my post to not make it too obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angle_sh00ter View Post
    My trip bankroll is always 100 max bets. I usually have at least 20 max bets on me when I sit down at a table. If I'm taking a beating I'll leave (during a negative count) rather than continue playing short on funds. I'll never leave a game with a high count unless I'm completely tapped out which is pretty rare.

    I have a friend who is a fellow counter and he has the same thinking as zee. He will leave if he is getting pumped no matter how high or juicy the count. When I asked him why, his response was that he prefers to leave with his dignity. It's a concept so foreign to me in the context of blackjack but i can still respect it.
    So, if your max bet is $500, you are taking $50k with you on a trip? I get nervous as he'll carrying $15k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    If you drop to a lower bet when losing it saves you a big chunk of the beating.
    Voodoo thinking.

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