Value of Penetration Illustration

[Stealth]

Some time ago, I created this chart to illustrate the value of pentration for the 6 deck game. I used CVCX with optimal betting with a 10K bank and then at varying penetration levels starting at 78 cards.

The middle section of the chart illustrates the edge improvement in raw numbers and the right sections illustrates the % improvement over 78 cards.

The results of the analysis where, for me, very eye opening and should promote such analysis with the games you are making selection decisions about.


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[Freightman]

Even though halves isn’t there, really nice illustrations.

[Bubbles]

Thanks for the chart, Stealth.

[Red Green]

What is the numeric code after the count name?


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[Stealth]

[QUOTE=Red Green;259548]What is the numeric code after the count name?


When using the "Compare" function in CVCX the drop down provides a description of the sim and includes (a date?) a number identifier. I included the number provided to allow for cross reference confirmation of the sim.

My purpose was to illustrate the overriding value of deeper penetration and was done for a "controlled" audience. While I did edit what I was doing, I did not have an independent third party to review and confirm my findings. If errors exist, I apologize and will be happy to correct if identified.

I hope you find it useful.

Stealth

[Freightman]

[QUOTE=Stealth;259913]

What is the numeric code after the count name?


When using the "Compare" function in CVCX the drop down provides a description of the sim and includes (a date?) a number identifier. I included the number provided to allow for cross reference confirmation of the sim.

My purpose was to illustrate the overriding value of deeper penetration and was done for a "controlled" audience. While I did edit what I was doing, I did not have an independent third party to review and confirm my findings. If errors exist, I apologize and will be happy to correct if identified.

I hope you find it useful.

Stealth

Regardless of any errors that may be identified, the huge salient point is the effect of deeper penetration on increased earnings.

[cc12b]

Thanks Stealth, The cut card at 78 is most common, follow by 52 if you scout hard enough, 39 and 26 is dream if not to say unrealistic.

[ferenc11]

Thanks Stealth, The cut card at 78 is most common, follow by 52 if you scout hard enough, 39 and 26 is dream if not to say unrealistic.

I found an 8 deck game at Excalibur's with half deck cut off, once.

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[Three]

I found an 8 deck game at Excalibur's with half deck cut off, once.

I have found that casinos regularly change things up. Pen may at regular intervals change from poor to great and back again. Card thickness may change along with the size of discard trays used to hold the already played cards. I think high paid independent advisors come through periodically and just tell them to change everything in order to justify their high fees. If the casino cuts thin they use the argument that cutting thin is making them vulnerable to counters. If they are cutting thick they use the argument of how much more money they would make by getting more rounds an hour in with a thin cut. You will see changes casino-wide for many games at the same time periodically. In casinos where this is the case you just need to keep an eye out for the conditions you want to play. Eventually the pendulum swings back. I have no problem getting 1/2 deck cut off but I train dealers to do that. They give me what they can. When the casino goes to 2 decks cut off I will get 1 to 1.5 cut off. Some dealers are too clueless to learn how to get regular small tips. Others are easy to train how to get that treat.

[ferenc11]

I have found that casinos regularly change things up. Pen may at regular intervals change from poor to great and back again. Card thickness may change along with the size of discard trays used to hold the already played cards. I think high paid independent advisors come through periodically and just tell them to change everything in order to justify their high fees. If the casino cuts thin they use the argument that cutting thin is making them vulnerable to counters. If they are cutting thick they use the argument of how much more money they would make by getting more rounds an hour in with a thin cut. You will see changes casino-wide for many games at the same time periodically. In casinos where this is the case you just need to keep an eye out for the conditions you want to play. Eventually the pendulum swings back. I have no problem getting 1/2 deck cut off but I train dealers to do that. They give me what they can. When the casino goes to 2 decks cut off I will get 1 to 1.5 cut off. Some dealers are too clueless to learn hoe to get good tips. Others are easy to train how to get that treat.

Thanks Three. This is the skill that I should master. I know a few tricks ("Cut thin to win"), but It doesn't work out for me all the time unfortunately.
Normally I just aim at deep penetration without revealing any kind of intention.
You told me quality games. So I follow your advice without a doubt.

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[cc12b]

I found an 8 deck game at Excalibur's with half deck cut off, once.

Are you sure you were not drunk or see ghost when you saw that?

[ferenc11]

In fact I was quite sober.

Are you sure you were not drunk or see ghost when you saw that?

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[Gramazeka]

Hi Lo > RPC ???