New member, first post, first question about how it is beatable in my country.

[Freightman]

That's my bar mitzvah parshah (seems like it may be yours too). but seeing how it took me over six months to prepare for it, you'd never catch me leining again. (well, you'd never catch me in shul again to begin with.)

Lech Lecha was my younger son’s portion. He did Musaf and haftorah. I did the Torah portion. Dont recall exactly, but I think i spent a couple of months practicing. In those days, I had a cassette tape that listened to while I was depriving etc.

These days, I go to SHUL about 1x a month, so sometimes more, sometimes less.

[Letangs]

Thanks you.
I'm still reading Wong's book.
Yep, in my country penetretion is bad, but I'll W w +TC. I'll try.

Althought, it's possibile to backcount playing online.
I'm looking 4 good BJ sites.

Ciao

You can try.
But bad penetration also means the frequencies of a good TC will drastically reduce...
The lower the penetration is, the lower the frequencies of your advantage will appear.

[GoGoCity]

You can try.
But bad penetration also means the frequencies of a good TC will drastically reduce...
The lower the penetration is, the lower the frequencies of your advantage will appear.

Thanks.

My last question, cause I finished wong book too, and a lot of my question have been answered.

6 decks shoe.
I wong in a table, half deck dealt. Cutting card placed in 4/6. So 3,5 deck before shuffling.
After another half deck, corrent count is +8.

Now, to calculate the true count, what do I have to do?

I dont understand this.

Do I have to current count/5?

In the first book I've read, yes,
but following Wong, he says to current count/total decks.

What's right?

[Gramazeka]

Help for you-

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[DSchles]

Thanks.

My last question, cause I finished wong book too, and a lot of my question have been answered.

6 decks shoe.
I wong in a table, half deck dealt. Cutting card placed in 4/6. So 3,5 deck before shuffling.
After another half deck, corrent count is +8.

Now, to calculate the true count, what do I have to do?

I dont understand this.

Do I have to current count/5?

In the first book I've read, yes,
but following Wong, he says to current count/total decks.

What's right?

No, divide by 5.5. That's the number of decks you haven't counted. You're misunderstanding what Wong may have written. He would only say to divide by total number of decks you haven't counted. Whether they're in the shoe or in the discard tray doesn't matter.

Don

[BJPloppy]

6 decks shoe.
I wong in a table, half deck dealt. Cutting card placed in 4/6. So 3,5 deck before shuffling.
After another half deck, corrent count is +8.

Unless I am misreading this, the OP is saying that they Wonged in with one half of the deck already dealt, then another half deck was dealt. That is when the count went to +8. I believe that is where he got the 5 from.

Do I have to current count/5?

I hesitate to write this since there has been no response from the OP - I just don't want to make a new player's head explode.

[stopgambling]

that is my understanding as well fron reading the post .8 / 5= 1.6

[DSchles]

that is my understanding as well fron reading the post .8 / 5= 1.6

Why are we discussing this? The RC was +8. There are 5.5 decks UNSEEN by the player. It makes no difference if some are in the shoe and some are in the discard tray. Shame on you for thinking otherwise. The TC is +8/5.5 = 1.45. What don't you understand?

Don

[BJPloppy]

Why are we discussing this?

I brought it up because it seemed to me that the OP was unsure of the process.

There are 5.5 decks UNSEEN by the player. It makes no difference if some are in the shoe and some are in the discard tray. Shame on you for thinking otherwise.

I believe this is the source of confusion. If I tell you that I wonged into a shoe with half a deck already dealt, that means I back-counted and entered at a propitious time. Otherwise, I would say I entered the shoe with half a deck missing (why I would do that - I am sure I have no idea). So I assumed the OP had seen one full deck. Just to be clear, I get how the whole TC thing works. I guess you can say shame on me for not realizing that wonging could be used synonymously with entering a shoe after the cards have been dealt - even if you are just walking by the table. I was not trying to be difficult and I would not have mentioned it had this somehow been an offshoot of a conversation with one of the forum veterans.

[stopgambling]

After another half deck, corrent count is +8.

, i think you missed that part ,Don. p.s. then i reread the post again , The source of confusion was he didn't say the discard was observed . Comprehension was my error if it meant it was unobserved .

[DSchles]

I understand. I was swayed by post #31, which, clearly, interprets things my way, as he moves to a new table, where some cards have already been dealt and are unseen by the Wonger.

But, I understand that there can be the confusion of having first COUNTED a half deck and then entered the game. Of course, that is a different situation.

Don

[Three]

i think you missed that part ,Don. p.s. then i reread the post again , The source of confusion was he didn't say the discard was observed . Comprehension was my error if it meant it was unobserved .

She didn't say he joined the table with .5 deck dealt. He said he wonged in with .5 deck dealt. Using the term "wonged in" implies he observed some if not all the cards before joining the table. If he hadn't observed any cards before joining the table he isn't wonging in.

[bjarg]

Are you playing in venice?