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    The book is ten years old, and not a single person has ever heard of it or written about it. A quick look inside reveals that it is about card clumping and other utter bullshit.

    And they want $59.35 for it! Not worth 59 cents.

    Don

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    Read the free pages. The authors display total ignorance of the game. For example, they claim that basic strategy is wrong because it assumes that the dealer downcard is a ten. This is typical of people that have no understanding of mathematics.
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    Don't close this thread. There's a much more interesting conversation taking place than one about this stupid book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Here, on another thread, I have noticed, and mentioned the name of one casino in a 3 casino chain, that went from a 1.5 cut off and significant heat, to now cutting off just 26 cards via notch on shoe, no heat. Over 2 months, over a dozen sessions ( lost most of them) and about a hundred plus shoes, count always gets high (negative or positive), eventually blatantly counting (0ne hand at negative counts, 2 hands at minimum till TC+1, increasing on up), no heat, just curious glances at my chips, just tracking my dollars as I pulled them out of my wallet to cash.
    I am am convinced that there is programmed clumping, even had a round of 14 ten value cards on table, another where a person hit his 12 and received 4 straight Aces, another Ace with another player as well as weird such clumps (once split 6’s into 4 hands and got another 6, lost all 4 hands against a 4 in a positive count).
    I am hoping some pros in MO will play and report from that casino. Clumping consistently, absence of heat and notch on shoe has me convinced that clumping intentionally is possible in an ASM. If there is a solution in the book, maybe...

    Why aren't posts like this yellow? And why is this poster allowed to derail every thread on the forum? It completely stops any interesting threads, and makes people not even want to come back here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post

    Why aren't posts like this yellow? And why is this poster allowed to derail every thread on the forum? It completely stops any interesting threads, and makes people not even want to come back here.
    want to bet? Look up my threads with yours? Stop trying to be a forum manager. If you don’t like a post, move on, put on ignore list, don’t write to be nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post

    Why aren't posts like this yellow? And why is this poster allowed to derail every thread on the forum? It completely stops any interesting threads, and makes people not even want to come back here.
    You are dumb! Most AP’s appreciate being told of a great 6 deck game offered with 5.5 penetration and make plans to travel and play it. You simply don’t get it and make asinine statements. Look at my posting. If you do not believe in clumping or fixed ASM’s, then I have just provided you with 2-3 casinos in a nice location and city that is easy to get to and burn it down, make loads of money, force them to return to lesser pen.

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    This book has to be a rehash of the old "New Blackjack" or NBJ system that was written by E. Clifton Davis back in the early 1990s. It was marketed by Patterson, who wrote a book or two on counting back in the 1980s. NBJ was around $1000 a copy as I recall. Patterson first came up with the "Target 21" system (a system to locate "dumping" tables) which was dropped with NBJ came out. After that I believe Patterson and NBJ vanished. Contained in the NBJ system was the First Base strategy which was a simplified version of it. Basically it was a system of determining if your first card was going to be a Ten. So this book is ancient history.

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    Oddly, this book appears even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Here, on another thread, I have noticed, and mentioned the name of one casino in a 3 casino chain, that went from a 1.5 cut off and significant heat, to now cutting off just 26 cards via notch on shoe, no heat. Over 2 months, over a dozen sessions ( lost most of them) and about a hundred plus shoes, count always gets high (negative or positive), eventually blatantly counting (0ne hand at negative counts, 2 hands at minimum till TC+1, increasing on up), no heat, just curious glances at my chips, just tracking my dollars as I pulled them out of my wallet to cash.

    I am am convinced that there is programmed clumping, even had a round of 14 ten value cards on table, another where a person hit his 12 and received 4 straight Aces, another Ace with another player as well as weird such clumps (once split 6’s into 4 hands and got another 6, lost all 4 hands against a 4 in a positive count).

    I am hoping some pros in MO will play and report from that casino. Clumping consistently, absence of heat and notch on shoe has me convinced that clumping intentionally is possible in an ASM. If there is a solution in the book, maybe...
    To what casino in Missouri are you referring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    To what casino in Missouri are you referring?
    Read this thread. See #36
    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...osing-sessions

    Why don't you check it out and get back to us. Let us know how you did.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 11-10-2019 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    You are dumb! Most AP’s appreciate being told of a great 6 deck game offered with 5.5 penetration and make plans to travel and play it. You simply don’t get it and make asinine statements. Look at my posting. If you do not believe in clumping or fixed ASM’s, then I have just provided you with 2-3 casinos in a nice location and city that is easy to get to and burn it down, make loads of money, force them to return to lesser pen.
    You of all posters calling me dumb...yikes lol. And your usual answer to everyone "if you don't like Zee's posts, then ignore them" is not going to cut it. Some of us want to have a positive, knowledgeable forum without BS from you about clumping after you lost a few sessions...over, and over, and OVER! Or your other nonsense going on how many years now?!
    Yes you do bring a lot of traffic to this forum...but at what cost?
    #makeitapaidforumonly
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    over a dozen sessions ( lost most of them) and about a hundred plus shoes, count always gets high (negative or positive), ...

    I am am convinced that there is programmed clumping, even had a round of 14 ten value cards on table, another where a person hit his 12 and received 4 straight Aces, another Ace with another player as well as weird such clumps (once split 6’s into 4 hands and got another 6, lost all 4 hands against a 4 in a positive count).
    1.) Losing most of a dozen shoes is not uncommon and a very small sample, by far not representative.

    2.) Often the count gets low (which you call "high", but there is a difference between minus 20 and plus 20, otherwise we wouldn't play the game), or it gets high. This is not unusual. Sometimes it stays about zero, but exactly zero is not that likely.

    3.) I practiced against 6 and 8 deck shoes this summer at home, and had a split of three or four equal cards several times in only about 10-20 shoes. Also, I drew at least 3 aces in a soft hand and even took a photo of that :-). Especially for shoes, this is not uncommon. But keep in mind that the probability of drawing four equal cards of an arbitrary value is much higher than drawing four cards of a certain value, e.g. four sixes. And 14 tens of how many cards on the table? seems quite common, too.
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