Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
Zee doesn't play optimally, but I believe he has a winning game. Good for him.
It depends on what you call a winning game. To me you are gambling until you have played through your n0 5 to 10 times, closer to the latter. If you expect to do that and have plus EV then you are playing a winning game. If you will never get that many rounds in you are gambling no matter what your EV is. It will take Zee well more than 50K hours of play to not be gambling. That is not how I define a winning game for a recreational player. Maybe if Zee played more than 2K hours per year he might make it in his lifetime. You are free to define being a winning player however you want. To me you are gambling until you get through at least 9 times your n0 in rounds.