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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasBigDeal View Post
    I checked out MGM Springfield this morning (8/27.) It was busy but not at all crowded. I can verify PayMyPush's description of the tables with one addition.. there's a Pit 3 right outside the High Limit tables with 4 3:2 S17 six-deck tables. $50 minimum. Those 4 tables were open with only a few players between them. I went looking for a $25 minimum 3:2 S17 six deck but there were none to be had. Pit 7 with 14 6:5 H17 CSM tables had only 6 tables open with 4 of them at a $15 minimum and 2 at $25. Those tables were busy but there were seats available.
    Can you confirm the stories that Pit 5 meant to use ASM, but on the first day OP visited, ASM malfuctioned so they have to hand shuffled but the ASM problem has been fixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Can you confirm the stories that Pit 5 meant to use ASM, but on the first day OP visited, ASM malfuctioned so they have to hand shuffled but the ASM problem has been fixed?
    Pit 5 wasn't open. There are ASM's at each of those 8 tables; whether they're working or not I can't say.

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    High Limit Attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasBigDeal View Post
    I checked out MGM Springfield this morning (8/27.) It was busy but not at all crowded. I can verify PayMyPush's description of the tables with one addition.. there's a Pit 3 right outside the High Limit tables with 4 3:2 S17 six-deck tables. $50 minimum. Those 4 tables were open with only a few players between them. I went looking for a $25 minimum 3:2 S17 six deck but there were none to be had. Pit 7 with 14 6:5 H17 CSM tables had only 6 tables open with 4 of them at a $15 minimum and 2 at $25. Those tables were busy but there were seats available.
    Thanks for the update.

    Were there many players in the high limit pit?

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    Four $100 minimum tables open in the high limit area. 1 player at each of two tables. The other 2 were waiting for players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    I'd like to check back in a month or two or better yet in the dead of winter. I'm not going to make a special trip but if my travels bring me there I'll definitely give it a look.
    You are a real piece of work. I will be looking forward to that dead of winter report.

    In post #38 you wrote:

    "Twin River in Tiverton RI is opening on Sept 1. It will be a lot smaller than MGM Springfield which, as casinos go, is not all that big."

    Looking forward to that Sept 2nd report.

    By the way I know where that hidden bathroom is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    You are a real piece of work. I will be looking forward to that dead of winter report.

    In post #38 you wrote:

    "Twin River in Tiverton RI is opening on Sept 1. It will be a lot smaller than MGM Springfield which, as casinos go, is not all that big."

    Looking forward to that Sept 2nd report.

    By the way I know where that hidden bathroom is.
    Yes, you know everything for a guy who never leaves his state. Google is your friend.

    Tell all those globe trotting APs not to fuel up their Gulfstreams just yet. Wait till I check the pen at Tiverton Casino Hotel. And keep bumping this thread that you don't want anyone to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasBigDeal View Post
    Four $100 minimum tables open in the high limit area. 1 player at each of two tables. The other 2 were waiting for players.
    I wonder if they will be lowering the minimums to $50 during the week in the high limit area. At least a few tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Yes, you know everything for a guy who never leaves his state. Google is your friend.

    Tell all those globe trotting APs not to fuel up their Gulfstreams just yet. Wait till I check the pen at Tiverton Casino Hotel. And keep bumping this thread that you don't want anyone to see.

    You can really piss some people off when you shit in their backyard, especially if they have something to be pissed about. Ive been passed off at dickheads spouting stuff about my backyard, when it was inappropriate to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Paymypush, you helped the little guy and for that I'm grateful.
    MWP, in post #48 in reply to three you wrote:

    "You don't get it. The little guy won't travel across country. He has a job and other responsibilities. He might travel 200 miles for a good game, but blackjack is not his main priority."

    Three does not get it are you fu----- shitting me? You are jumping the gun way too far down the road. Sure some of the little guys have advanced to a point where they now play with a nice small edge, but where did it begin? It all starts with a prospective new player stumbling upon one of these boards and is usually recommended a book to start his/her education. If that person is serious will follow the board closely and possibly read a few more books. Now, who puts more time and effort trying to instill in these new players that learning to count cards is one thing, being able to get away with it requires a new set of skills that you frankly cannot find in books? Many long-time players put in some effort in helping out, but very few put in the time and effort that Three does, it is just a fact. Why does he do it without question or obligation? I do not know you would have to ask him. Before you credit paymypush for what you think is a good deed, you better think of Three's painless efforts to put the player in a much better position to succeed.

    Three, and I express differences and clash occasionally but never on the subject of casino comportment, which we often agree, as I highly respect his ideas on that topic.
    Last edited by BoSox; 08-27-2018 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    If that person is serious will follow the board closely
    It's just entertainment. So much noise here, for someone trying to learn anything, it's a waste of time.

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    I was there opening weekend. After the first crazy night (2-hour wait to get in), it was not very crowded. I saw only two pits open: one with four 3:2 tables, $50 min, no MSE, with about the same pen mentioned earlier here. Other pit was $25 CSM - that was actually pretty full.

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    MWP, in post #48 in reply to three you wrote:

    "You don't get it. The little guy won't travel across country. He has a job and other responsibilities. He might travel 200 miles for a good game, but blackjack is not his main priority."

    Not all big players network. Some of the big guys do all the research themselves which requires hard work and they are used to it. Some of these people watch the boards closely without participating in and looking for some moron to spill a valuable nugget. No one worries about the little guy ruining the game just getting in the way.

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    Competition, Bad Rules, and Smaller Crowds

    Quote Originally Posted by cottage cheese View Post
    I was there opening weekend. After the first crazy night (2-hour wait to get in), it was not very crowded. I saw only two pits open: one with four 3:2 tables, $50 min, no MSE, with about the same pen mentioned earlier here. Other pit was $25 CSM - that was actually pretty full.
    If it wasn't very crowded on an the opening weekend, this is surely a bad sign for MGM Springfield. While Mohegan (and probably Foxwoods) don't have many tables open on weekdays, the money (for the casino) is made on weekends.

    Mohegan "introduced" 6:5 blackjack in July 2018 at the $10 tables, and have a pit where the minimum is $25 (3:2 but with 8 decks and hit soft 17). The tables are not crowed during the week (except where only a few open tables are available in the $15 pit). So Mohegan is seeing the early effects of 6:5 blackjack, H17, and especially 8 decks -- and it's not good for the casino. Mohegan needs to wake up if it wants to succeed during the week by having decent rules.

    The $50 pit at Mohegan is fairly crowded during afternoons/evenings during the week where 3:2 exists and staying on soft 17 remain. However, players have been really upset at the introduction of eight decks. There is a limited number of $50 players, however.

    Twin Rivers in RI has had an adverse effect on the number of players at Mohegan (and maybe Foxwoods) and with MGM in Springfield opening and another casino in RI opening, crowds may very well get smaller at these two Connecticut casinos.

    I wonder if at some point casinos in New England will need better rules to attract players to their casino. Players who gamble need to win sometimes in order to return another day. Bad rules just decrease the "chances" of winning sometimes and the result will be fewer players returning.

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