Norm wrote, "Thread closed because of assholes."

**21forme** · 08-20-2018, 06:34 AM

In one of many endless threads, Norm wrote the above.

Norm, shutting down threads doesn't work. You need to shut down the assholes. The endless back and forth, off-topic BS is out of control.

**BJGenius007** · 08-20-2018, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by 21forme

In one of many endless threads, Norm wrote the above.

Norm, shutting down threads doesn't work. You need to shut down the assholes. The endless back and forth, off-topic BS is out of control.

This is Norm's fight club. You are only ejected from the match after being caught hit below the belt.

**ZeeBabar** · 08-20-2018, 12:53 PM

Some of the a&%$oles don't even know they are thought of as one, lol! Just look at the last 3-4 posters before Norm had enough.

**Norm** · 08-20-2018, 05:13 PM

This forum is about AP. I wish people would respect this.

**Letangs** · 08-20-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Norm

This forum is about AP. I wish people would respect this.

It's the same all over the Internet.... You read as much valuable information as you read shit.

**Norm** · 08-20-2018, 05:17 PM

Which is why it's easier to manage a site that doesn't give a shit.

**21forme** · 08-20-2018, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Norm

This forum is about AP. I wish people would respect this.

Perhaps the abusers don't realize how inappropriate their posts are in content and/or volume. Time for warnings and the heave-ho if they don't comply?

**CountinCanadian** · 08-20-2018, 11:15 PM

People should just not take themselves so seriously.

First off, there's nothing wrong with being wrong "in practice," it's how we learn. Thinking of the forum as practice, like class would be before a test. As long as you fix it before the test (casino), you're good

Some people just seem to get stuck on the hopeless side of an argument, generally against others with more experience than them, out of pride for wanting to be seen as correct or "win" to a bunch of people who know them as nothing but a username which in and of itself is sort of ridiculous.

This understandably pisses the real/more knowledgeable APs off, (of which I am definitely not one but hope to be) who initially just try to help.

Then the person defending their hopeless point will resort to talking about how rude APs are and the life has made them so nasty, etc etc because they feel insulted that the AP (who devotes a great deal of their life to the game) corrected them (an amateur) and this is their way to still try to "win" the whole exchange.

Sometimes it ends there, usually it degrades further.

I have seen this exact cycle many times, though often find it rather amusing.

Lighten up people

**CountinCanadian** · 08-20-2018, 11:18 PM

Of course that's not always what happens, but a fair chunk of arguments

**ZeeBabar** · 08-21-2018, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by CountinCanadian

People should just not take themselves so seriously.

First off, there's nothing wrong with being wrong "in practice," it's how we learn. Thinking of the forum as practice, like class would be before a test. As long as you fix it before the test (casino), you're good

Some people just seem to get stuck on the hopeless side of an argument, generally against others with more experience than them, out of pride for wanting to be seen as correct or "win" to a bunch of people who know them as nothing but a username which in and of itself is sort of ridiculous.

This understandably pisses the real/more knowledgeable APs off, (of which I am definitely not one but hope to be) who initially just try to help.

Then the person defending their hopeless point will resort to talking about how rude APs are and the life has made them so nasty, etc etc because they feel insulted that the AP (who devotes a great deal of their life to the game) corrected them (an amateur) and this is their way to still try to "win" the whole exchange.

Sometimes it ends there, usually it degrades further.

I have seen this exact cycle many times, though often find it rather amusing.

Lighten up people

So the assumption is that being good at anything, being an AP or boxing or medicine also means that they are nice people? Are you saying that all AP's are the same, Just nice helpful people of are you kissing up to them? After all Tarzan or Don S or others don't respond the same way as some other AP's.

**Three** · 08-21-2018, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

So the assumption is that being good at anything, being an AP or boxing or medicine also means that they are nice people? Are you saying that all AP's are the same, Just nice helpful people of are you kissing up to them? After all Tarzan or Don S or others don't respond the same way as some other AP's.

You really missed a point that was spot on. The point was when people are losing an argument rather than conceding or agreeing to disagree they attack personally. When many are opposing them they attack the community. When this is done it just shows a lack of class and that the person has nothing to stand on in an argument. It is the immature version of raising the surrender flag from having lost the argument.

**Dbs6582** · 08-21-2018, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Three

You really missed a point that was spot on. The point was when people are losing an argument rather than conceding or agreeing to disagree they attack personally. When many are opposing them they attack the community. When this is done it just shows a lack of class and that the person has nothing to stand on in an argument. It is the immature version of raising the surrender flag from having lost the argument.

Excellent point Three. Who is the official ref to determine who is the winner in an argument? It sounds like you beleieve if the majority believe something, then they must be right. That’s the dumbest thing you've said in a long time. I can show you many examples throughout history where the minority’s view was right and the majority were wrong.

Btw, as a rule of thumb, I use name calling to determine when one side is right and which is wrong. I’ve noticed when one side losses, they usually get frustrated and start calling the other side names. They know they have lost the argument but rather then admitting it, they go to the lowest form of arguing, which is name calling. Basically they attack the person, rather than their ideas.

These people who resort to name calling and put downs usually have a difficult time accepting new ideas that are different than theirs. I’ve many times seen a group of people do this to one indivual. It’s actually quite common. It’s why gangs enjoy beating up one weaker person. It helps feed their insecurities.

**Three** · 08-21-2018, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Dbs6582

Excellent point Three. Who is the official ref to determine who is the winner in an argument? It sounds like you beleieve if the majority believe something, then they must be right. That’s the dumbest thing you've said in a long time. I can show you many examples throughout history where the minority’s view was right and the majority were wrong.

No. I didn't try to say that at all. I am often in the minority of a debate. I think it is because people like to chime in when they think I am wrong but not so much when it comes to chiming in when they agree with me. You will see some posters do both but many only disagree with me and stay silent when in agreement.

Originally Posted by Dbs6582

Btw, as a rule of thumb, I use name calling to determine when one side is right and the other is wrong. I’ve noticed when one side losses, they usually get frustrated and start calling the other side names. They know they have lost the argument but rather then admitting it, they go to the lowest form of arguing, which is basically name calling. Basically they attack the person, rather than their ideas.

It sounds like you understand what I was saying so I don't understand why you made the first paragraph in your post.