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    No one said it was a great game; but it can be playable at times.

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    «*Playable at time*»
    At what time and for what EV and c-Score?
    I’ll be extra cool with you, I’ll let you bet $500 and Wong this game!
    Now, give us you fu.... EV and c-Score
    Maje it a playable game in BJ heaven

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    Nice post!

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    This thread is SO friggin' pathetic. It is impossible to post virtually anything without immediate counter reactions from people who are just madly in love with hearing themselves talk.

    Making asinine statements such as what a great game 6:5 can be if only you're creative and can think outside the box and all this other horse manure is truly insulting to blackjack greats such as Gman. As if he didn't understand that if you dealt a SD game to the end and could spread 50-1 with impunity, you might actually win a few pennies at this loathsome game!

    Instead of the naysayers' trying to impress us with their dazzling innovative capabilities, just FOR ONE F**KING TIME in the history of this forum, let the f**king original statement stand and STFU!

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    This thread is SO friggin' pathetic. It is impossible to post virtually anything without immediate counter reactions from people who are just madly in love with hearing themselves talk.

    Making asinine statements such as what a great game 6:5 can be if only you're creative and can think outside the box and all this other horse manure is truly insulting to blackjack greats such as Gman. As if he didn't understand that if you dealt a SD game to the end and could spread 50-1 with impunity, you might actually win a few pennies at this loathsome game!

    Instead of the naysayers' trying to impress us with their dazzling innovative capabilities, just FOR ONE F**KING TIME in the history of this forum, let the f**king original statement stand and STFU!

    Don
    +1000 Bravo!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post

    Making asinine statements such as what a great game 6:5 can be if only you're creative and can think outside the box and all this other horse manure is truly insulting to blackjack greats such as Gman.

    Don
    I don’t know who Gman is, but Don’s endorsement makes him instantly credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I don’t know who Gman is, but Don’s endorsement makes him instantly credible.
    For those of you who may speak or understrand French, you can learn more about Monsieur G here:

    Bonjour,



    Je suis un joueur de Blackjack de niveau professionnel résidant au Canada. J'ai joué avec le groupe du M.I.T en 2001-2002 dans ce qu'il serait convenu d'appeler une deuxième génération de l'équipe telle que montrée (et fortement romancée) dans le film Hollywoodien « 21 ». Lors des années qui ont suivi, j'ai aussi fait partie d'une autre équipe de premier plan dont je voudrais taire le nom puisque celle-ci ne fut jamais identifiée par les casinos. Mes expériences de jeu dans plus de 175 casinos du monde, m'ont permis de développer et de mettre en pratique des méthodes de jeu efficaces et diverses. Je possède donc une connaissance très étendue du Blackjack et des toutes les formes d'avantages qu'il peut procurer.

    Je fais partie d'un très petit groupe de gens que les casinos nomment « Advantage Players ». Ce terme désigne la minorité de professionnels étant capable de retourner l'avantage du casino en leur faveur. Ce dont il est question ici, c'est de l'utilisation d'une méthode de comptage des cartes servant à identifier les situations de mise favorables au joueur pour le jeu de Blackjack, connu aussi sous le nom de « 21 ». Cette méthode tout à fait légale fonctionne irréfutablement. La preuve, les casinos dépensent des millions de dollars chaque année pour identifier ce type de joueur et leur restreindre l'accès aux tables de jeu.

    Certains d'entre vous m'ont probablement connu alors que j'animais le Forum de Monsieur G à une autre adresse et dans un format semblable. Bien que cette première expérience fût des plus plaisantes, il vient un temps où l'on préfère voler de ses propres ailes. Remerciements à Jack Black! J'ai aussi, en Pierrot, un extraordinaire collaborateur et allié dans cette tâche qui nous attend, c'est-à-dire de faire de ce site, le point de rencontre de tous les joueurs francophones de Blackjack. Un vrai « Square » du Blackjack ! Pierrot est un homme intègre et d'un grand professionnalisme, vous le remarquerez dans sa présentation.


    His French website, blackjack-square.com, is one of the premier sites in any language on the subject, and it contains thousands upon thousands of knowledgeable and inciteful posts. Gman is a former member of the MIT teams, and is one of the most knowledgeable players I know.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    For those of you who may speak or understrand French, you can learn more about Monsieur G here:

    Bonjour,



    Je suis un joueur de Blackjack de niveau professionnel résidant au Canada. J'ai joué avec le groupe du M.I.T en 2001-2002 dans ce qu'il serait convenu d'appeler une deuxième génération de l'équipe telle que montrée (et fortement romancée) dans le film Hollywoodien « 21 ». Lors des années qui ont suivi, j'ai aussi fait partie d'une autre équipe de premier plan dont je voudrais taire le nom puisque celle-ci ne fut jamais identifiée par les casinos. Mes expériences de jeu dans plus de 175 casinos du monde, m'ont permis de développer et de mettre en pratique des méthodes de jeu efficaces et diverses. Je possède donc une connaissance très étendue du Blackjack et des toutes les formes d'avantages qu'il peut procurer.

    Je fais partie d'un très petit groupe de gens que les casinos nomment « Advantage Players ». Ce terme désigne la minorité de professionnels étant capable de retourner l'avantage du casino en leur faveur. Ce dont il est question ici, c'est de l'utilisation d'une méthode de comptage des cartes servant à identifier les situations de mise favorables au joueur pour le jeu de Blackjack, connu aussi sous le nom de « 21 ». Cette méthode tout à fait légale fonctionne irréfutablement. La preuve, les casinos dépensent des millions de dollars chaque année pour identifier ce type de joueur et leur restreindre l'accès aux tables de jeu.

    Certains d'entre vous m'ont probablement connu alors que j'animais le Forum de Monsieur G à une autre adresse et dans un format semblable. Bien que cette première expérience fût des plus plaisantes, il vient un temps où l'on préfère voler de ses propres ailes. Remerciements à Jack Black! J'ai aussi, en Pierrot, un extraordinaire collaborateur et allié dans cette tâche qui nous attend, c'est-à-dire de faire de ce site, le point de rencontre de tous les joueurs francophones de Blackjack. Un vrai « Square » du Blackjack ! Pierrot est un homme intègre et d'un grand professionnalisme, vous le remarquerez dans sa présentation.


    His French website, blackjack-square.com, is one of the premier sites in any language on the subject, and it contains thousands upon thousands of knowledgeable and inciteful posts. Gman is a former member of the MIT teams, and is one of the most knowledgeable players I know.

    Don
    Impressive. From google translate

    I am a professional level blackjack player residing in Canada. I played with the group of the M.I.T in 2001-2002 in what would be called a second generation of the team as shown (and strongly fictionalized) in the Hollywood movie "21". In the years that followed, I was also part of another leading team whose name I would not mention because it was never identified by the casinos. My gambling experiences in over 175 casinos around the world have allowed me to develop and practice effective and diverse gaming methods. I therefore have a very wide knowledge of blackjack and all the forms of benefits it can provide.
    I'm part of a very small group of people that casinos call Advantage Players. This term refers to the minority of professionals being able to return the casino advantage in their favor. What we are talking about here is the use of a card counting method to identify player-friendly betting situations for the Blackjack game, also known as "21". This completely legal method works irrefutably. The proof is that casinos spend millions of dollars every year to identify this type of player and restrict their access to gaming tables.
    Some of you probably knew me while I was animating Mr. G's Forum at another address and in a similar format. Although this first experience was very pleasant, there comes a time when one prefers to fly on one's own. Thanks to Jack Black! I also, in Pierrot, an extraordinary collaborator and ally in this task that awaits us, that is to say, to make this site, the meeting point of all players French-speaking Blackjack. A true "Square" of Blackjack! Pierrot is a man of integrity and professionalism, you will notice in his presentation.

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    Don said
    “For those of you who may speak or understrand French, you can learn more about Monsieur G here:”

    Don, what does understrand mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    what does understrand mean?
    It's French for understand.

    Freightman, please do the forum a favor and simply ignore dbs. There's no point in conversing with him.

    Gman - about 10 years ago, introduced by a mutual friend, I corresponded with a QCer who I believe is/was an ER doc, email address began wolf..., and is/was an expert shuffle tracker. Would that be you?

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    Hi 21forme,

    Certainly not me. I know a doctor who played for high stakes but he wasn't a tracker at all. Nope, have no idea who this could be.
    G Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    This thread is SO friggin' pathetic. It is impossible to post virtually anything without immediate counter reactions from people who are just madly in love with hearing themselves talk.

    Making asinine statements such as what a great game 6:5 can be if only you're creative and can think outside the box and all this other horse manure is truly insulting to blackjack greats such as Gman. As if he didn't understand that if you dealt a SD game to the end and could spread 50-1 with impunity, you might actually win a few pennies at this loathsome game!

    Instead of the naysayers' trying to impress us with their dazzling innovative capabilities, just FOR ONE F**KING TIME in the history of this forum, let the f**king original statement stand and STFU!

    Don
    Don, I actually found the counter reactions useful since I play quite a bit 6:5 bj. It was good to see other APs playing 6:5, and I appreciated their commentary on it. The main reason I play the 6:5 games I’ve found is because I used Norm’s products and got a SCORE above 100. I obviously don’t like 6:5 but if the SCORE is above 50, I play it. Your SCORE rating system is what drives my decisions on the games I play. The 6:5 game I play has higher SCORES than most of the DD 3:2 games I play. I also realize I need to play the games casinos offer. If I don’t like them, I need to move on and not play them.

    I have no idea who Gman is but I found his idea of how to stop 6:5 similar to pissing in the ocean, meaning it’d have no impact on 6:5. The ploppies don’t care or aren’t following twitter on this topic so this won’t have any impact on 6:5. I guess you could say it’s a noble cause, which will have no impact on 6:5. The AP community is too small.

    6:5 will live or die based on what casinos decide to do, and they will base their decisions on their internal data. If they see it hurting revenue, they will reverse their decision and go back to 3:2. Do I see this happening? No. Why? Because these are the same ploppies who put more money on the side bet (that has a huge house edge) than their main bet. I’ve seen them in action. Most don’t care if it’s 6:5 or 3:2. They just want to bet on something and lose their money. Lol.

    I don’t think we should stomp out free speech since we don’t agree with people’s counter augments. I wanted to say some opposing things when I first read Gman’s post, but decided against it since I know 6;5 is a hot bottom topic within the AP community. From my perspective, it was refreshing to see some respected APs make some counter augments on this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    Don, I actually found the counter reactions useful since I play quite a bit 6:5 bj. It was good to see other APs playing 6:5, and I appreciated their commentary on it. The main reason I play the 6:5 games I’ve found is because I used Norm’s products and got a SCORE above 100. I obviously don’t like 6:5 but if the SCORE is above 50, I play it. Your SCORE rating system is what drives my decisions on the games I play. The 6:5 game I play has higher SCORES than most of the DD 3:2 games I play. I also realize I need to play the games casinos offer. If I don’t like them, I need to move on and not play them.

    I have no idea who Gman is but I found his idea of how to stop 6:5 similar to pissing in the ocean, meaning it’d have no impact on 6:5. The ploppies don’t care or aren’t following twitter on this topic so this won’t have any impact on 6:5. I guess you could say it’s a noble cause, which will have no impact on 6:5. The AP community is too small.

    6:5 will live or die based on what casinos decide to do, and they will base their decisions on their internal data. If they see it hurting revenue, they will reverse their decision and go back to 3:2. Do I see this happening? No. Why? Because these are the same ploppies who put more money on the side bet (that has a huge house edge) than their main bet. I’ve seen them in action. Most don’t care if it’s 6:5 or 3:2. They just want to bet on something and lose their money. Lol.

    I don’t think we should stomp out free speech since we don’t agree with people’s counter augments. I wanted to say some opposing things when I first read Gman’s post, but decided against it since I know 6;5 is a hot bottom topic within the AP community. From my perspective, it was refreshing to see some respected APs make some counter augments on this topic.
    I was thinking of how idiotic your comments were, especially those commenting on your SCORE exceeding 100. Especially humorous given that can’t be CSCORE given your prior commentary of low stakes play.

    But I’m not going to Criticize your post. I’ll let everyone else tell you how incredibly stupid your post is.

    Please refer to my post 10.
    Last edited by Freightman; 08-09-2018 at 04:34 PM. Reason: Add referral post 10

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