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    I saw a ploppy split 6s FOUR times.....against a dealer's king! And his next two cards? Sixes. Needless to say, he lost all four hands. I don't think I've ever seen anyone split sixes against a ten, and I have never seen six consecutive 6s dealt to one person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountinCanadian View Post
    I had to leave at a TC of +5 today simply because I had no more cash on me... It was a rough day.

    Though I thought of this post and felt better
    Glad to be of help. I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I don't see how I'm not a pro counter. I can keep the running count to near perfection, my true count conversion is accurate, and I know ~50-60 indices (mostly positive bc I wong out).

    I am negative at EVERY casino lifetime. Potowanomi, Ho chunk, oneida, island resort, treasure island, El cortez, treasure bay, and Harrah cherokee. ALL NEGATIVE. not a single positive net experience.
    Dalmatian, you profile says you are from "Deep South." I'm curious what you are doing playing so many places in the Midwest. Anyway, I decided to check my records to see how I did at Oneida and North Star over the last eleven years.

    During that time period I played Oneida 17 times for a net win of $1,865. I won on 13 of those 17 times played. Biggest win was $1,065. Biggest loss was $1,160. For North Star during that same 11 year period I played there 20 times for a net win of $3,479. I won on 14 of those 20 times played. Biggest one day win was $3,225. Biggest loss was $1,370.

    For Island Resort they said "no more blackjack' to me back in 2006 after I won only a little over $600 over two days.

    I don't know why you are doing so bad. I would suggest you only play one hand. Also feel you don't need so many index numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I ran cvcx. It said my risk of ruin was less than 2%. It's about to be all but certain now.
    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I live in Milwaukee but have also spent a lot of time in Georgia, sometimes bouncing back and forth. I'm playing Wisconsin and UP stores, while down the there I play mississippi/north Carolina stores.

    I managed to slip another several thousand since posting this thread. I'm officilly on the verge of losing my bankroll. I.E. RISK OF RUIN REALIZED. sucks.
    dalmatian, when you ran the sims for risk of ruin did you also include expenses you incurred for traveling? If not that may be your biggest problem right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I don't understand. I play at stores that literally tolerate me wonging out the second the true count is below zero. So I'm only playing positive and neutral counts. Isn't that a winning game with even no spread?
    Depending upon how bad the house rules are, the upfront house edge may still keep you at a disadvantage at a +1 TC. So obviously when you also mention playing neutral counts, that above quote itself can be a very deceptive statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    On top of that im spreading 1:40. 5$ to 2×$100 at true 4.
    No disrespect intended, but this seems extremely hard to not only cover expenses but also show a decent return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I don't understand. I play at stores that literally tolerate me wonging out the second the true count is below zero. So I'm only playing positive and neutral counts. Isn't that a winning game with even no spread? On top of that im spreading 1:40. 5$ to 2×$100 at true 4.

    I ran cvcx. It said my risk of ruin was less than 2%. It's about to be all but certain now.
    Are you playing Indian casinos? If you are in Wisconsin, I'd have to think so. Cheating can't be ruled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I lasted 60 minutes at island resort. That place is a joke though with 2.1-2.5 decks cut off. They did make my list though (of places I'm gonna blitz to enact revenge for backing me off while down).

    I live in Milwaukee but have also spent a lot of time in Georgia, sometimes bouncing back and forth. I'm playing Wisconsin and UP stores, while down the there I play mississippi/north Carolina stores.

    I managed to slip another several thousand since posting this thread. I'm officilly on the verge of losing my bankroll. I.E. RISK OF RUIN REALIZED. sucks. Meanwhile complete retarded voodoo players are walking away with more money. I gonna get a 2nd full time job and build another bankroll. I hate blackjack.
    Dalmatian, I hope I wasn't too personal in asking you these questions as some claim. Anyway, I'm always interested in stores in my neck of the woods. Thanks for letting me know of your Island back off. I never went back as simply I have better places to play where I can still play rated. My suggestion to you would be to cut out the 6 deck games and play mostly 2 deck.

    I can help you with stores in the northern half of WI and U.P. I won't post these details on a public forum. You can email me at my email address. Maybe we can share some info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    ...still making about 30$/hr. ........

    6xunit hourly sounds high to me....esp w/ that crappy game...pota

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    Im wondering if those that have been fortunate enough to come back from a losing streak can elaborate on what that look's like?!

    I've been steadily losing any losing and just losing all year long. And they're horrible losses in small sessions. Today I lost 2100 in 3 hours.

    I put in about 70 hours this year and am ~-9000$. My spread is 5/10 min, 2×30$ @ +2, 2×60$ @ +3, and 2×100$ @ +4 or higher.

    I've had several sessions that were -2000 or -1000 and just one +1300 session but that took all day. All my other winning sessions where +500 or less. Is this just really bad variance? I play mostly H17 das rsa 6D with hi low and I18.

    Will I eventually have a surge of positive variance that brings me back in a few hours to positive or will this take years to reverse?

    I had a complete fit and basically started shouting the count out loud and swearing in disbelief as I lost max bet after max bet today. The pit boss and dealer said nothing and I wasn't arrested. I think I will be able to hold my emotions if I ever win money but as long as I am negative I can't handle these severe losing streaks.
    You made no mention of penetration which is generally more important that various rules.

    Your spread is both anemic and indicative of a novice counter. Your perspective on dealing with variance is to verbalize it in a casino? REALLY BAD EV!

    You should have known all the parameters of variance for your game and fitted to your bankroll BEFORE you started. Then you wouldn't EXPECT to win all the time.

    Educate yourself on variance and game selection.

    Your results are near 2SD from EV which would cause me to check your game quality, so I would do a skill check to insure my game is solid. Over/under betting and chasing losses may be a culprit.

    You need to wong in and/or out with an emphasis on reducing the TC-1 or worse rounds played.

    If you then decide you can't handle the negative variance, then take up another venture because it is coming over and over in both directions.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Cover? You need to stop right there. You can't afford cover or a single tip. PERIOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I ran cvcx. It said my risk of ruin was less than 2%. It's about to be all but certain now.
    That original less than 2% ROR was only a starting point from a set bank. When an inevitable negative fluctuation hits you, do you think that does not change anything as you still started with a low ROR and everything will eventually work itself out? Constant re-evaluation of ROR is necessary especially with a falling bankroll. Even more so in your case because you are already playing at a level with a unit bet that is more than likely you will not be able to downsize. Although you did learn something about yourself in this endeavor and that is when the going gets tough the reality is that you could give two shits about ROR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    You made no mention of penetration which is generally more important that various rules.

    Your spread is both anemic and indicative of a novice counter. Your perspective on dealing with variance is to verbalize it in a casino? REALLY BAD EV!

    You should have known all the parameters of variance for your game and fitted to your bankroll BEFORE you started. Then you wouldn't EXPECT to win all the time.

    Educate yourself on variance and game selection.

    Your results are near 2SD from EV which would cause me to check your game quality, so I would do a skill check to insure my game is solid. Over/under betting and chasing losses may be a culprit.

    You need to wong in and/or out with an emphasis on reducing the TC-1 or worse rounds played.

    If you then decide you can't handle the negative variance, then take up another venture because it is coming over and over in both directions.
    Hi Stealth, I read his spread as 1-20 or 1-40 depending on his minimum bet. What would be considered a non-anemic bet spread for a 6D game?

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