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[RS]

$30k roll and $100 mins, you're looking at a pretty big ROR. I didn't do the math or sim it, but taking MWP's word that it's 47%, plus common sense.

Granted, that's not necessarily a bad thing, either. It depends on what kind of risk you're comfortable with. If you're making a significant amount of money in your day job and you can come up with another $30k easily and that isn't a lot of money to you, then I'd say go for it. If you can replenish it 3 more times, then you're effectively working with a 0.47^4 ROR (or 4.8%). If that $30k is a significant portion of your net worth or you can't replenish it too quickly....it'd probably be best to downsize your game and play for lower stakes.

[ZeeBabar]

I can think of far more enjoyable things to lose $30k over. can't you?

[Meistro123]

As for the I-18 index, there seems to be a number of variations posted (presumably based on the rules of the game?). I would like to know the optimal index variations for this particular game.

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[hypercube]

i would recommend zen for your count system since all 6d, but the best advice on here is dont play that game, 100min is way to much for your bankroll, go find a 25 min game and you will have a chance of success.

[BJGenius007]

Sorry folks - I meant CSMs.
Yeah unfortunately I have no other choice of games locally.
As for the I-18 index, there seems to be a number of variations posted (presumably based on the rules of the game?). I would like to know the optimal index variations for this particular game.
Lastly, which software would be ideal for practice?

Thanks

You get me all excited. Then this.

[Dog Hand]

<snip>Lastly, which software would be ideal for practice?

Thanks

HungryAgain,

The proprietor of this website, Norm, is also the author of the Casino Vérité (CV) suite of blackjack software. Among his excellent products is CVBJ, which allows the user to practice playing BJ.

For additional information visit

https://qfit.com/blackjack-games.htm

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

[ummagumma]

HungryAgain,

The proprietor of this website, Norm, is also the author of the Casino Vérité (CV) suite of blackjack software. Among his excellent products is CVBJ, which allows the user to practice playing BJ.

For additional information visit

https://qfit.com/blackjack-games.htm

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

Best advice so far and I would certainly get the software and hone your counting/betting to the outcomes for your particular games.

[HungryAgain]

Thank you all for the advice.
I have done pretty well thus far. 3 winning sessions totalling about 12k in profit. Then the last session just went absolutely terrible, like it almost felt rigged at how bad I was losing. It was just 21 after 21 it was unbelievable. I gave back 9k in that one session. This is a tough business..

[Meistro123]

yah, even if you do everything perfectly you only have a small edge so losing sessions are quite common. that is why we recommend practicing conservative bankroll management. honestly with 30,000 would want at least 150 max bets (max bet of $200). it is pretty easy to lose 20-30 max bets in a session.

[JamesonDetroit]

Changing counts is the last thing to consider. Otherwise, its like going out and buying the same golf clubs that Tiger Woods uses so you could play putt putt golf! A whole lot of people are succesful counters using a level 1 count.

Zee is correct here. It is far better to use a simple count making zero errors than a more advanced one with a few errors in your sessions. I keep thinking I'll get crucified (though it hasn't happened yet, heh) by some forum members when I say that I've been using Red 7 (one of the simplest counting systems out there) for the entirety of my AP experience with great success. It means I can spend less energy with the counting and more on camouflage, having rich, interesting conversations with other players, the dealers, and even the PCs, which I've found is some of the most reliable camouflage at my disposal. Worry about practicing a more advanced count in a couple years (if you want to) once the entirety of your work, including camouflage, is something you can do in your sleep.

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[Ryemo]

Thanks for all the responses. To add on - it is a S17 and no surrender. The reason why I play the $100 min is because anything lower are ASMs. My bankroll is about $30k.
Can anybody recommend any indexes to use for level 1 count? Thanks again!

30K is not enough to play a $100 min shoe game. Not even close. Hell, I’ve lost more than 30K playing $25 tables with top bets of 2x500 and 2x400 in ONE trip (approximately 50 hrs of play).

You need to find a better game with lower minimums or you’ll more than likely go bust. I actually recall having a short losing period last year that went for 29 hrs of play. I dumped 25K playing excellent DD games and really good pen 6D games and I was only betting 2x250 and 2x300. Food for thought...

[stopgambling]

betting 2 x $600 in a shoe i lost over $10 k . with 30k you can not play $100 minimum games unless you are willingg to keep replenish your bankroll a few more times .

[Ryemo]

betting 2 x $600 in a shoe i lost over $10 k . with 30k you can not play $100 minimum games unless you are willingg to keep replenish your bankroll a few more times .

Exactly! Some of the worst shoes I ever had: -11,200 betting 2x500. -7,000 betting 2x300. And -12,000 betting 2x800. All of those results occurred in one single shoe. I’m sure I’ve had others that I’m missing, but those 3 are the most memorable for me.